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Re: “GNU welcomes contributions from all and everyone” in context of the
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Dmitry Alexandrov |
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Re: “GNU welcomes contributions from all and everyone” in context of the proposed “GNU social contract” |
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Sun, 27 Oct 2019 07:38:17 +0300 |
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Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 2019-10-26 at 02:45 +0300, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote:
>> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
>>> * GNU welcomes contributions from all and everyone
>>>
>>> The GNU Project produces software for anyone to use, but also wants to give
>>> everyone the opportunity to contribute
>>
>> Curious. Prior paragraphs were substantiated by links to extensive articles
>> on gnu.org, while this is not. Is that a novelty?
>
> https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/contribute
It says nothing about GNU.
> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.html
| The GNU Project encourages contributions from anyone who wishes to advance
the development of the GNU system, regardless of gender, race, ethnic group,
physical appearance, religion, cultural background, and any other demographic
characteristics, as well as personal political views.
— Richard Stallman
Hm... Even more curious.
Note, that @rms@gnu.org did not mention the main ‘demographic characteristic’ —
a class. And perhaps that is not a coincidence: as you know, unlike many other
free software developments, major subprojects of GNU [0] are very selective
about from whom they are accept contributions. Everyone have to pass though a
weird and protracted bureaucratic process [1], but employees are also have to
pass through even longer and humiliating procedures to prove that they are not
liars [2].
In other words, the statement quoted in subject is much farther from the
reality than a minor miswording about copyleft — in fact, GNU is unwelcoming to
contributions from all and everyone, and many are less welcome than some.
And that discrimination may be a well-justified choice — justified by the goal
of GNU project: to develop a free operating system. After all, nothing in it
implies that the development should be welcoming for everyone. Many, including
probably the most widespread free program in the world — SQLite, do not welcome
contributors at all.
However, now @ludo@gnu.org is proposing fundamental change: to make ‘welcomes
contributions’ a principle in itself along with ‘respects freedom’. And it
also may turn out to be a very good decision: bazaar development indeed proved
to be quite effective. Besides direct interests, a positive populist effect is
expected too: many of those who would be proud to become GNU contributors, but
are stopped by current discriminative policies, will be happy about that change.
But are you all really calling for changes, or these ‘all and everyone’ are
mere buzzwords to please angry SJWs out there? If the latter, they sound
hypocritical as hell, sorry.
[0] All the core things: GCC, libc, etc, but also, for instance, the Emacs,
which otherwise would be, perhaps, the easiest program to hack on.
[1] https://flameeyes.blog/2010/11/15/welcome-to-last-century/amp/
(preamble in italics is worth skipping)
[2]
https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/254080#comment-511582
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