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Re: Need of ‘stubborn governance’ (was: Turning GNU into a bottom-up org
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Dmitry Alexandrov |
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Re: Need of ‘stubborn governance’ (was: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization) |
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Mon, 28 Oct 2019 07:10:33 +0300 |
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ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) wrote:
> > The only way tackle non-free software is to explicitly reject it, at all
> times.
>
> Then we can write that in a GNU social contract, instead of having to rely
> on stubborn governance.
>
> Yet again, you argue that we should have a weaker governance -- that
> "stubborn governance" is what is needed to keep things free.
Excuse me, do GNU actually have precedents when the ‘stubborn governance’ was
proved to be needed to keep things free?
In any way, may I chime in with a suggestion to consider the concrete cases
when ‘stubborn governance’ had been come into action.
For instance, one important issue of the last years, I can recall, was a Guix
naming.
IIRC, @ludo@gnu.org and Co. were initially going to reserve ‘Guix’ for package
manager only, while calling the system distribution ‘GNU’ — simply ‘the GNU’:
they presented it as ‘GNU’ at GHM and FOSDEM, published the first alpha
releases of ‘GNU’, and even the /gnu/ hierarchy is a remnant of that intention.
Being made that way, despite all the best intentions they had, it would be
obviously perceived as a statement “we are the proper and pureblood GNU, while
Debian and other GNU distributions are impostors”, so RMS, of course, strongly
opposed that.
How such an issue would be supposed to be resolved with a ‘non-stubborn’
governance?
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- Re: A GNU âsocial contractâ?, (continued)
- Re: A GNU “social contract”?, Ruben Safir, 2019/10/28
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2019/10/27
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Samuel Thibault, 2019/10/27
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2019/10/27
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Samuel Thibault, 2019/10/27
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2019/10/28
- Re: Need of ‘stubborn governance’ (was: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization),
Dmitry Alexandrov <=
- Re: Need of ‘stubborn governance’ (was: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization), Alfred M. Szmidt, 2019/10/28
- Re: Need of ‘stubborn governance’, Dmitry Alexandrov, 2019/10/29
- Re: Need of ‘stubborn governance’, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2019/10/31
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Samuel Thibault, 2019/10/27
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Jean Louis, 2019/10/28
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Jean Louis, 2019/10/28
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Jean Louis, 2019/10/28
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Florian Weimer, 2019/10/24
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2019/10/27
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Samuel Thibault, 2019/10/27