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Re: UML cooperation
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vio |
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Re: UML cooperation |
Date: |
Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:49:30 -0400 |
Derek Neighbors wrote:
> I know you all hate hearing this but I will say again.
>
> This is a GNU project. Freedom is AND will be VALUED over ANY feature.
> Rational Rose discussions do NOT belong here. I dont care how good it is.
> It's a product that unless it under goes radical license change will not
> be a part of this process.
>
> Now the other tools argouml or whatever else I assume are under some other
> license that is free so if we want to compare them to Dia that is fine.
> However, a decision has been made to use Dia for now as no tool at this
> point is gonna let us model objects and spit out the proper application
> server code we need. So lets move on. :)
>
> Rather than brag how great rational rose is and give them a bunch of
> moneyu, the FSF way would be to make plug ins to dia or contribute to some
> other free modeling tool to get the functionality you need.
Well, Derek, now you know why I keep myself only on the fringes of gnue, and
why I started the "duplicating" myerp.org project. You only want to use tools
that are "blessed by the family" (the GNU family that is ... Don Derek :-),
even if they are crap (sorry, I mean, still in early development) or simply
nonexistent. While I on the other hand "really!" don't care about this
religion, I just want the job done, the sooner the better, with the best tools
I can get my hands on. So I'm sorry for the duplication of projects, but for
the time being, I think I'll remain on the fringes of gnue still (and push my
myerp thing with whatever I fill like), as you guys are much too restrictive
for me.
> Freedom is AND will be VALUED over ANY feature.
This "sounds" nice, but where is the meaning behind those powerful words ? What
is your understanding of the concept of freedom then ? I was only talking about
a tool in relation to this project, what's the "sin" in that ?
Third, I only talk about RR because I strongly believe that it can "really"
help this project. And so does ArgoUML (though to a lesser extent), which is
unfortunately still far from RR's functionality, but then much better than Dia:
at least that generates Java source (if I recall correctly). From my
perspective, gnue is not really in a position to spit over any help it can
muster. Sure you can "move mountains" a tea spoon at a time, but there are
other more efficient ways. Life is short.
Fourth, I don't want to extend Dia, I'm here for the ERP stuff (remember?).
Fifth, a poor general is he who never changes his mind. Situations change, new
opportunities appear, you don't maintain an x months decision just because you
said so back then, you do it ONLY because it is still relevant to the present
situation. Adapt or die (hmm, how Darwinian of me).
Finally, if you want me to shut up, well it's your project, so I'll (try to)
respect that. But as my grandma would say "You won't go far with That
attitude, young man". I believe you want to attract people willing to put their
free time and effort on your project, not scare them away. Else, you will see
your people shutting down or ... branching out. Trick or treat!
Cheers - Vio
- Re: UML cooperation, Alejandro Imass, 2000/10/24
- Re: UML cooperation, vmilitaru, 2000/10/25
- Re: UML cooperation, vmilitaru, 2000/10/26
- RE: UML cooperation, Alejandro Imass, 2000/10/26
- RE: UML cooperation, Derek Neighbors, 2000/10/26
- Re: UML cooperation, vmilitaru, 2000/10/26
- Re: UML cooperation, Andrew Hill, 2000/10/30
- Re: UML cooperation, vmilitaru, 2000/10/30
- Re: UML cooperation, Andrew Hill, 2000/10/30
- Re: UML cooperation, vio, 2000/10/30
- RE: UML cooperation, Micheal J, 2000/10/30
- RE: UML cooperation, Micheal J, 2000/10/30
- RE: UML cooperation, Micheal J, 2000/10/26
RE: UML cooperation, Alejandro Imass, 2000/10/26