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Re: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by defau

From: T. Kurt Bond
Subject: Re: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 23:10:29 -0400

So, on my Fedora 33 box at home, with both of the packages groff-base (the
default install, just for man pages, I think?) and groff (the rest of
groff) installed, /usr/share/groff does not contain a site-font.

On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 8:15 PM T. Kurt Bond <> wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 16:58:41 -0400,
> Wim Stockman <> wrote:
> > Using the site-font directory so you don't need root access.
> So, whether or not the site-font directory is owned by root, or even
> exists, is inconsistent.  (This also makes it difficult to find
> automatically for scripts.)
> For instance, on my macbook the Apple installed version (1.19.2, alas)
> the font directory is in /usr/share/groff/site-font like you would
> expect and is owned by root.  In the version installed by the homebrew
> package manager /usr/local/share/groff is a link to
> /usr/local/Cellar/groff/1.222.4_1/share/groff and is owned by me.
> (Homebrew doesn't use root access to install anything.)  I don't
> remember what Macports, which I used to use, did, but expect it would
> have been owned by root if it existed.  The version of groff I
> installed from git has a writable site-fonts.  On my Pop!_OS 21.04 box
> (an Ubuntu derivative) /usr/share/groff does not have a site-font, and
> is owned by root.  The OpenBSD 6.8 box I have access to has a
> /usr/local/share/groff/site-font directory that is owned by root.
> None of the directories owned by root are writable by normal users.
> (I'll have to see what my Fedora box when I get home this evening.)
> Peter Schaffter's current defaults to looking in
> /usr/local/share/groff for site-font, has an option, -s, to look in
> /usr/share/groff, and has another option, -P, for specifying the
> directory to look in.  (Note that is the directory to *look in* for
> site-font, not the actual full path to site-font.)  It also has logic
> for copying font files to one of the directories
> /usr/local/share/fonts/{truetype,opentype,type1} depending on what
> kind of font file the fonts are, and I don't think those directories
> are completely standardized either.
> Making put things in the right places, with or
> without root privileges, may be one of the things that makes
> incorporationg it into the groff distribution difficult.
> --
> T. Kurt Bond,, and

T. Kurt Bond,,

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