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Criticisms of my "tone" (was Re: A "cosmetic changes" commit that remove

From: Mark H Weaver
Subject: Criticisms of my "tone" (was Re: A "cosmetic changes" commit that removes security fixes)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 12:43:53 -0400

Hi Ludovic,

Ludovic Courtès <> writes:

> Mark H Weaver <> skribis:
>> Léo Le Bouter <> writes:
>>> It seems you are more focused and spend more time sending accusations
>>> here than collaboratively working to improve GNU Guix. I don't feel
>>> like that's something great to do at all.
>> I feel an obligation to protect our users, and among other things that
>> means calling attention to Guix committers that are doing things like
>> pushing commits with misleading commit logs (which evade proper review)
>> and pushing "cosmetic changes" that remove security fixes.
> That you called attention on these issues is a great service to all of
> us, Mark.  But I have to agree with Ricardo: the harsh accusatory tone
> towards Raghav and Léo was not warranted; please assume good faith.

I'm sorry if this comes off as obtuse, but having now re-read all of my
messages in this thread, I honestly do not see what I did wrong here.
I will need some help to understand.

With very few exceptions, almost every sentence that I wrote was purely
factual.  It seems to me that the facts speak for themselves, and those
facts naturally cast Raghav and Léo in a bad light.  I don't see how to
avoid that while still presenting the facts.

You, and a couple of others, have criticized my "tone".  This is very
subjective, especially over email where we must *imagine* the tone of
the speaker.  Is it possible that you read more in my messages than I
actually wrote?

It would be very helpful if you could point out specific messages or
quotes of mine to illustrate your criticisms, and to clearly explain
what's wrong with them.  I'm not trying to be obstructionist here.  I
honestly don't understand, and I cannot improve without understanding.


Disinformation flourishes because many people care deeply about injustice
but very few check the facts.  Ask me about <>.

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