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Re: Guix home, guix system, channels, some noob questions

From: Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq
Subject: Re: Guix home, guix system, channels, some noob questions
Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 10:40:18 +0200
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Thanks Julien,

Ok i see, like you say jpoiret also say me that the concept are orthogonal, so if i understand well :

- adding emacs as system package, i suppose this is available for all users

- adding emacs as home package, i suppose this is available only for me

And *guix install something* install for which, system or home or both ?

Some other general questions :

- About dotfile management, is it possible to use chezmoi, yadm, stow in // of guix home ?

I'm interested by some example if you have.

- About secrets management, i know this is very complicated in nix (there are one hundred way to do the things, more or less secure), how that works if i want to inject *secrets* into guix home scm file and maintain security when i share or publish my config with/to others ?


Best regards

Le 11/05/2022 à 17:48, Julien Lepiller a écrit :
Guix home and guix system are pretty similar as they are used to declaratively manage configuration. But, they are not mutually exclusive. Guix system is the only way to install and update the Guix System (hence the name ;)).

Guix home manages your user's configuration (in /home) while guix system manages the system's configuration (traditionally in /etc, though less true for guix). The two are acting in a very similar on two different things.

Also, you can use guix home on a foreign distro, or choose to not use guix home on the Guix System.


On May 11, 2022 4:55:23 PM GMT+02:00, "Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq" <> wrote:


    My other question remain about guix home / guix system relation, and sudo, 
but jpoiret found my main problem, my channels.scm are not well defined / not 
good ...

    - I made (cons * (channel ...)) (cons* (channel ...)) etc.

    - and .. the correct way is (cons * (channel ...) (channel ...))

    Everything run fine now with *guix system reconfigure 


    Le 11/05/2022 à 16:36, Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq a écrit :

        Hi, Thanks Julien, I see on the doc that *sudo* run command as
        user and not as root like other distro. So, to be sure, if i
        run *sudo guix something*, i don't change user to run this
        command isn't it ? Actually i only work with my account
        "myuser" into group ("users","wheel",etc.) using or not using
        *sudo* (this is not clear when i need or not) for running
        *guix* command. About the commands with
        /.config/guix/channels.scm (see content here  : a) *guix describe* and
        *sudo guix describe* and *sudo -E guix describe* return
        Génération 7    11 mai 2022 16:01:25    (actuelle)   guix
        d24ad39     URL du dépôt :     branche : master
            commit : d24ad3949127a938cad306f0524c120afe5e2e4f b) *guix
        system describe* return Génération 7    10 mai 2022
        12:39:34    (actuelle)   nom de fichier :
        /var/guix/profiles/system-7-link   nom de fichier canonique :
        /gnu/store/az1ff4ll80dbrbkayc4y0jqgnc2m37mp-system   étiquette
        : GNU with Linux 5.17.5   chargeur de démarrage : grub-efi  
        périphérique racine : /dev/mapper/cryptroot   noyau :
          canaux :     nonguix:       URL du dépôt :       branche : master
              commit : 1de0c32142c54bc73af5556d5e45c77152b31f0f    
        guix:       URL du dépôt :       branche :
        master       commit : d775a24344d4a910f6a19072c595bdafcf104b6f
          fichier de configuration :
        c) *guix home describe* return Génération 1    10 mai 2022
        16:59:14    (actuelle)   nom de fichier :
        /var/guix/profiles/per-user/reyman/guix-home-1-link   nom de
        fichier canonique :
        /gnu/store/3q599hyjkx8c5ywsdy2gqfmx2bjzgzmm-home   canaux :
            flat:       URL du dépôt :       branche
        : master       commit :
        094746c1e2e90f2df1e598ab1fd0abb4d75ce84d     guix:       URL
        du dépôt :      
        branche : master       commit :
        0f705472126f7b935e0783bcd8fec831b7a0593b   fichier de
        configuration :
        With jpoiret, i try to resolve the issue on chat, i also try
        to run manually *guix pull -C ./config/guix/channels.scm*
        without success. A *command -v guix* return
        */home/myuser/.config/current/bin/guix* Best regards, SR Le
        11/05/2022 à 12:47, Julien Lepiller a écrit :

            Hi Sébastien, When you run guix describe, it's running the
            guix for your user, which miggt be different from the one
            you run when you use sudo. That could explain why the
            modules are not found. I don't think guix home has
            anything to do with that. I noticed that the first time
            you use sudo -E, whereas you use only sudo on step 5.
            Mayée that's why it fails? I would run sudo guix describe
            and sudo -E guix describe to see how the two might be
            different from your user's guix :) HTH! On May 11, 2022
            11:09:19 AM GMT+02:00, "Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq"
            <> wrote:     Hi
            Guix people :)     I'm starting guix, picking information
            when needed into documentation.     I'm facing
            difficulties with channels.scm since i start using "guix
            home", i read the doc page, but i need some other things
            to understand.     Here my logic to start just after
            install :     1 - I modify my //etc/guix/channels.scm/
            file to add some modules : /nonguix/ (my computer don't
            work well without) and /emacs-native-dep/ from flatwhatson
            flat channel.     2 - I /guix -E guix system reconfigure
            /etc/config.scm/, /guix pull/, and everything goes well
                3 - Like explained in the doc, I run /guix home import
            ~/src/guix-config /that generate /a
            //home-configuration.scm//     /     /4 - /Into
            /home-configuration.scm///i add the package htop and
            /emacs-native-comp/     5 - In the guix home doc the next
            command is /guix home reconfigure config.scm /but this is
            probably a typo and i run /guix home reconfigure
            ~/src/guix-config/home-configuration.scm/     6 -
            Everything goes well, emacs-native-dep compile during 1
            hour, problems arrive after that.     7 - I'm moving the
            //etc/guix/config.scm/ and //etc/guix/channels.scm /to my
            home /~/.config/guix/ , /and i run /sudo guix system
            reconfigure ~/.config/guix/system.scm///*, that fail*/,
            /it seems the module (nongnu and emacs-native-dep) are not
            referenced, like the error say /"no code for module (
            nongnu ..." /But when i run /guix system describe/, the
            corresponding channel are well defined. /     /     After
            that, i try many thing, like moving channels.scm and
            system.scm back to /etc/guix/ but every reconfigure
            command fail in link with channel/module not recognized
            (emacs-native-dep or nongnu)     - /guix home reconfigure
            ~/src/guix-config/home-configuration.scm/     - /guix
            system reconfigure ~/.config/guix/system.scm/     - /guix
            system reconfigure ~/etc/guix/config.scm/     So my
            question is first, why that fail after switching to guix
            home ? and how and where i need to define/set correctly
            the /channel.scm/ file to repair that ?     For example,
            /guix system//describe/ and /guix home describe/ and /guix
            describe/ return all different channel referenced, how i
            manage that ?     I suppose there is a "workflow to use
            well guix home"? but this is not actually in the doc. For
            example, perhaps after creating and switching to guix home
            profile, running guix system is impossible or prohibited ?
            I suppose this will be added in the future.     Thanks a
            lot for your help.
    Sebastien Rey-C     //

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