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Re: post-moderating this list

From: Sergei Steshenko
Subject: Re: post-moderating this list
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:46:10 -0800 (PST)

----- Original Message -----
> From: Francesco Potortì <address@hidden>
> To: Octave users list <address@hidden>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:13 PM
> Subject: post-moderating this list
> I'll try to make this a more structured proposal.
> In the last years, traffic on this least has increased, which is a good
> sign.  However, discussions who used to be focused on Octave with very
> rare off-topic threads are now often becoming tit-for-tats, annoying to
> most of us and time-consuming for the developers.
> I propose to introduce post-moderation.
> For example, this can be implemented by having three post-moderators.
> If two of three agree and the third one does not veto, a poster who goes
> off-track or who indulges in Octave or free software bashing will be
> gently and privately invited to stop after few offending posts.  If the
> poster's behaviour does not change after the second warning, the
> moderators will propose a one-month ban of the poster to the list
> owners.
> I volunteer to be one of the three moderators, or even a moderator for
> some variation of the above proposal.
> -- 
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Your proposal is _very_ consistent with authoritarian guru-controlled 
structures behavior. From the link I recently posted: :

In a development eerily reminiscent of the organized hatred directed 
against the arch-heretic Emanuel Goldstein in Orwell’s 1984, Rand cultists were 
required to sign a loyalty oath to Rand; essential to the loyalty oath was a 
declaration that the signer would henceforthnever read any future works of the 
apostate and arch-heretic Branden [Rand's number 2]. After the split, any Rand 
cultist seen carrying a 
book or writing by Branden was promptly excommunicated.

- the "excommunicated" is/means banned.

And from :

People whose power is based on the surrender of others
develop a repertoire of techniques for deflecting and undermining
anything that questions or challenges their status, behavior,
or beliefs. They ridicule or try to confuse people who ask challenging
questions.” (p.66)

- yes, the status and _behavior_ (e.g. a burst of GPL propaganda instead of 
addressing the real problems) _is_ challenged, and you _react_ to this 

I have a much more general and far going proposal.

I suggest to intensify work on GPL4, and the very first freedom granted by the 
license should be the obligation of GPL4 SW users to send to FSF and GNU a 
notary signed pledge of allegiance in support of FSF/GNU/GPL cause.

GPL4 should also grant unlimited discretionary irrevocable freedom to list 
owners to decide who violates the pledge of allegiance.


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