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Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub
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David Kastrup |
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Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub |
Date: |
Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:09:22 +0200 |
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Joseph Rushton Wakeling <address@hidden> writes:
> On 22/09/13 17:21, Phil Holmes wrote:
>> IMHO this is solving a problem that doesn't exist. Using LilyDev (possibly
>> in a
>> Virtual Machine) provides git and git-cl. Git allows a developer to create a
>> patch with 2 commands: git commit and git format-patch. That can be
>> uploaded to
>> Rietveld with a single command (possibly 2 commands, depending on what you
>> were
>> doing earlier). When the review is passed, it can be pushed to staging with
>> 4
>> simple commands; or mailed to -devel for any active developer without push
>> access - these are very rare.
>>
>> How hard is that?
>
> (1) If you need to install a VM or a custom distro flavour to hack on
> a project, your design setup is very likely to be wrong.
You _are_ aware that the _majority_ of current contributors is running
Windows?
Try setting up a native development environment for LilyPond on
Windows. Come back when you are done.
> (3) If your developers all converge around a particular install setup,
> then you are missing out on important usability information from other
> platforms,
Oh, it's easy. Windows: unusable for development. It's been tried, and
the tries were not sustainable. That's why we have GUB, a
cross-compilation environment for creating Windows/MacOSX/etc
distributions.
> and the risk is that users are failed because developers weren't aware
> of the needs and requirements in cases outside their own setup.
Please compare LilyPond's track record to that of _any_ other project
delivering binaries for Linux, FreeBSD, MacOSX (PowerPPC _and_ Intel, I
might add) and Windows. We make a working development release every
2 weeks for all platforms.
Which other project does that? Can you please get more specific about
how we are failing our users here?
> I found the git-cl experience absolutely inexplicable given that at
> the time not only was GitHub offering the service it did, but similar
> experiences were available via Bitbucket, Launchpad and Gitorious.
They don't offer command line interfaces into issue trackers, do they?
--
David Kastrup
- Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub, (continued)
- Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub, Joseph Rushton Wakeling, 2013/09/24
- Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub, Graham Percival, 2013/09/24
- Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub, Joseph Rushton Wakeling, 2013/09/24
- Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub, David Kastrup, 2013/09/24
- Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub, Joseph Rushton Wakeling, 2013/09/24
- Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub, Phil Holmes, 2013/09/24
- Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub, Joseph Rushton Wakeling, 2013/09/24
- Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub, David Kastrup, 2013/09/22
- Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub, Janek Warchoł, 2013/09/22
- Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub, Joseph Rushton Wakeling, 2013/09/24
- Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub,
David Kastrup <=
- Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub, Joseph Rushton Wakeling, 2013/09/24
- Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub, David Kastrup, 2013/09/24
- Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub, Joseph Rushton Wakeling, 2013/09/24
- Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub, David Kastrup, 2013/09/24
- Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub, Joseph Rushton Wakeling, 2013/09/24
- Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub, David Kastrup, 2013/09/24
- Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub, Joseph Rushton Wakeling, 2013/09/24
- Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub, David Kastrup, 2013/09/24
- Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub, Joseph Rushton Wakeling, 2013/09/24
- Re: we now have "lilypond" organization on GitHub, Werner LEMBERG, 2013/09/24