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Re: How stable is 2.21?

From: Peter Toye
Subject: Re: How stable is 2.21?
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:48:23 +0000


There's a slight problem here - LP doesn't seem to allow me to have two versions installed on the machine at the same time. I found this when I was pointed towards the unofficial release of 2.21 on

And another point - when I installed this I found that the layout-set-staff-size function is giving wrong results - staff size 15 is larger than 16! So there seems to be a different bug in that version. I'd like to provide an MWE but the bug doesn't show up, and the score that I've got is far too long to post here. Whom should I tell about this (if they don't already know)?

Best regards,


Sunday, November 10, 2019, 4:42:56 PM, Phil Holmes wrote:

If this is the only thing you want to have fixed, you could try 2.18, which does not have the problem.

Phil Holmes

----- Original Message -----
Peter Toye
To: Urs Liska; Andrew Bernard; Lukas-Fabian Moser
Cc: lilypond-user Mailinglist
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: How stable is 2.21?

Thanks all for the comments.

As I'm running Windows it looks like I'm stuffed until 2.21 is released. Any ideas when this might happen?

Best regards,


Sunday, November 10, 2019, 1:19:38 PM, Urs Liska wrote:

> Am 10. November 2019 13:40:11 MEZ schrieb Peter
> Toye <
>> Andrew,

>> Thanks. I'll give it a whirl. But where do I download it from? The LP
>> web site doesn't offer anything more advances than 2.19.83.

> That seems to be a misunderstanding. 2.21 has
> not been released yet and can only be compiled from source.

> Ur

>> Best regards,

>> Peter

>> Sunday, November 10, 2019, 12:18:16 PM, Andrew Bernard wrote:

>> Hi Peter,

>> It's pretty good. Lilypond suffers from the overly false modesty that
>> all open source projects have, which is to declare development versions
>> 'unstable'. Technically this may be accurate to say, but in practice I
>> have found the development versions over many years to always be
>> outstandingly good, a real tribute to the excellence of our developers.
>> It's the same with version numbering in open source: modesty demands
>> that some programs sit at version 0.9 or so for up to even decades
>> until proved utterly error free beyond all earthly standards.

>> Where's the harm in it? You can always install multiple versions side
>> by side.

>> Andrew

>> On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 at 23:04, Peter Toye <
address@hidden> wrote:

>> I'm asking because I need to assemble a score with different staff
>> sizes (page-turning issues in piano music) and the bug I asked about
>> yesterday is reportedly corrected. But I hate working with unstable
>> software - I wrote enough of that in my programming days :)  And even
>> more debugging someone else's software (reason - ditto).        

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