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Re: Viewing PDF output


From: Michael Finton
Subject: Re: Viewing PDF output
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 22:17:20 -0500

Good evening gents,

Thanks for the suggestions:

What about a file like that:

{ \repeat unfold 128 c'4 }

This worked perfectly!  I think we can rule out an issue with my pdf reader.

Another user replied privately and suggested a slight modification of what Urs suggested:

      And try this, with an additional rogue quaver at the beginning:
      { c'8 \repeat unfold 128 c'4 }
      Lilypond cannot break this anywhere, and the output runs off the page.  

This recreated the issue exactly.  

In his note, this user also mentioned:

     Lilypond breaks music between systems automatically, of course. And
     it can do so generally only at bar lines. But this relies on note
     lengths also breaking at bar lines, of course - which in proper music
     they always do.   

I think this might actually be the issue.  Because I'm trying to create a Schenker graph, there are no bar lines in what I've coded.  So, Lilypond may not be able to segment the length appropriately, leading to the content continuing off the page.

If that's correct, how do I tell Lilypond to make breaks according to the page constraints while still visually keeping to what a Schenker graph is supposed to look like?  Is it as simple as just making the bar lines transparent?  But if that's the case, how do I equalize the amount of space each note head takes (everything should be the same, regardless of length)?

Mike


On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 2:49 AM Urs Liska <address@hidden> wrote:
Am Donnerstag, den 30.01.2020, 02:39 -0500 schrieb Michael Finton:
Urs and Abraham,

First, thank you for the warm welcome :)  I appreciate your speedy replies.

Full disclosure:  I've only been using Lilypond for around three weeks. Long story short, I wanted to try and input / print out a copy of a Schenkerian analysis that I had done on manuscript decades  ago, and decided to try and teach myself the language.  What on earth could possibly go wrong?! 

LOL


I unfortunately haven't created other files and so honestly don't know the source of the difficulties I'm having.  However, the description that you provided, Urs, is exactly what I'm experiencing.  It wouldn't surprise me if the issues are related to the \layout section and the values I've entered.

I'm happy to upload the PDF output as well as the source code - I just wanted to confirm that I wasn't breaking any rules before I did so.  And if it's ok for me to go ahead and do that, please, be gentle :)  It's definitely a work in progress.

You don't break *our* rules by posting LilyPond sources here, that's what we usually require. You should just think of any possible copyright of the material itself before posting.

Generally one should provide a MWE (minimal working example exposing the problem), but I assume in your case that's the issue - if you could strip the issue down to an MWE you'd probably have solved it by yourself.

PDF or PNG should only be added if they are *needed* to show an issue, and if they are rather small.

HTH
Urs



Mike

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 2:17 AM Urs Liska <address@hidden> wrote:
Am Mittwoch, den 29.01.2020, 20:48 -0700 schrieb Abraham Lee:
Hey, Michael!

As the saying goes, “Welcome to the ‘Pond!” 

On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 7:45 PM Michael Finton <address@hidden> wrote:
Hi all,

I looked through the archives, but didn’t see this issue addressed. My apologies if I somehow missed it.

I am relatively new to Lilypond. Everything I have coded seems to have been rendered successfully in my pdf reader. However, the horizontal width of the reader is constrained, such that only 3/4 of what has been coded shows in the pdf window.

Is this a Lilypond issue?  That is, is there language I can use in my file that will render everything in my pdf?  Or is this instead an issue with my pdf reader (I’ve tried adjusting every setting I can think of, without any success).

Hard to say exactly what the problem or solution is without seeing a sample (both input file and output pdf) of what you’ve tried. Would you mind supplying something that we can use to diagnose the situation? There’s a lot of very knowledgeable folks on this list. So, hopefully we can get to the bottom of this quickly so you can enjoy the fruits of your labor.

That's totally true, we need more information.
Is this with *every* score you produce? The first suspicion is that you introduced some errors that prevent LilyPond from breaking lines, which typically leads to the music "running off the page".

What about a file like that:

{ \repeat unfold 128 c'4 }

?

HTH
Urs


Best,
Abraham

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