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David Kastrup |
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Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this? |
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Thu, 28 Jul 2022 16:25:26 +0200 |
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Carl Sorensen <carl.d.sorensen@gmail.com> writes:
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 7:30 AM David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> The current naming is a drag.
>>
>> "\repeatTie" and "\laissezvibrer" are a stupid combination of terms for
>> the two different half ties you need to deal with in the context of
>> repeats or other visual non-linearities.
>>
>
> I completely agree. Since there are other applications for a half tie, the
> name shouldn't be \laissezvibrer.
>
>>
>> \startTie and \stopTie would make a lot more sense (even though they
>> don't need to be matched at all). \laissezvibrer might be an alias,
>> though I am not sure whether it would not, in that function, be
>> deserving of some tweaks giving it a longer minimal visual length.
>>
>
> I might prefer \beginTie and \endTie or \tieBegin and \tieEnd. \startTie
> and \stopTie don't seem to match the current usage of \startStaff and
> \stopStaff, although I think it's not that big a deal.
There is also \startTrillSpan/\stopTrillSpan, \startGroup/\stopGroup,
\startGraceSlur/\stopGraceSlur, \startTextSpan/\stopTextSpan,
\startMeasureCount/\stopMeasureCount,
\startMeasureSpanner/\stopMeasureSpanner . On the opposite side, there
is \endSpanners.
All of these strictly imply the beginning/end of typesetting, but then
the problem of halfties is that the usual connection of beginning/end of
typesetting with the flow of time is not there.
I was thinking of \leftTie/\rightTie instead, but then is the tie
pointing to the left, or is it supposed to be at the left end of a
repeat section? I thought start/stop would be less ambiguous even if
somewhat uglier.
>> It could also be complemented by \startSlur and \stopSlur that have
>> similar problems but actually differing visuals, and tend to reach
>> closer to the respective bar line.
>>
>> Possibly \startSlur <ending pitch> and \stopSlur <starting pitch> in
>> order to get sensible/matching curvature.
>>
>
> This sounds like a good proposal to me. But maybe \slurBegin and \slurEnd?
See above.
--
David Kastrup
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- Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?, David Wright, 2022/07/28
- Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?, Kenneth Wolcott, 2022/07/28
- Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?, David Kastrup, 2022/07/28
- Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?, Carl Sorensen, 2022/07/28
- Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?,
David Kastrup <=
- Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?, Simon Albrecht, 2022/07/28
- Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?, David Kastrup, 2022/07/28
- Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?, Kieren MacMillan, 2022/07/28
- Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?, David Kastrup, 2022/07/28
- Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?, Kieren MacMillan, 2022/07/28
- Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?, Werner LEMBERG, 2022/07/28
- Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?, Paul Hodges, 2022/07/28
- Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?, David Kastrup, 2022/07/28
- Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?, Jean Abou Samra, 2022/07/28
- Re: Last note of a first alternative is a tie to the first note in the repeat; how to engrave this?, Aaron Hill, 2022/07/28