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Re: [Paparazzi-devel] mailing list vs. forum -> maybe google groups as c

From: Felix Ruess
Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] mailing list vs. forum -> maybe google groups as compromise?
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 23:52:13 +0200

Hi guys,

I also don't think a forum would work well for us, but that was not the question and from most answers it seems pretty clear that a mailing list is preferred anyway.
Ok, this is of course totally biased as it was already asked on the ml and answered by people how know/like to use it... but anyway: there is no intention to move to a forum.

The question is if we get enough benefit from moving to google groups (importing what we have so far) to justify migrating our current mailing list.
Google groups is still basically a mailing list, but also allows it to be nicely browsed and used via the web interface, gives better search results (at least in my experience).
And you have some features like announcements and sticky posts..

We could also embed a window with the latest posts on the wiki, will look similar to this:

IMHO it is also totally irrelevant if the mailing list is hosted by some "spy" system like google. All our posts, etc. are already public anyway and indexed by google (and other search engines)....

If we decide to stay with our current mailing list, adding it to the gmane archive is certainly a good idea.

Where ever the mailing list is hosted (staying with GNU savannah or moving to google groups or ...), another question is if we should create another list e.g. paparazzi-users for - well - user discussions about how to set up airfames, what components to choose, etc.. and use the paparazzi-devel as a lower volume development discussion list.

Cheers, Felix

On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Eduardo lavratti <address@hidden> wrote:
BTW, look @ ardupilot forum !
Tons of amateurs and tons of repeated and useless posts and the ardupilot is 10 times easy than PPZ.
Impossible to find anything in that forum.

I like PPZ because most of people have a good know-how about the autopilot and electronics.
I am anxious to help in develop for PPZ AP but i past 20 years off any kind of professional developing.

If this good mailing list will be ported to forum i think i will not follow it anymore.

From: address@hidden
To: address@hidden
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 21:04:03 -0300

Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] mailing list vs. forum -> maybe google groups as compromise?

i personally not like forum !

as ex BBS admin i prefer 1000 times the old and good mailing list

> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 16:41:33 +0200
> From: address@hidden
> To: address@hidden
> Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] mailing list vs. forum -> maybe google groups as compromise?
> For personal preferences I would not think we should move the
> information discussed on the list to spy systems like google or
> facebook. It can be searched anyhow, but why should we actively
> work into the hands of such systems. If NSA wants to follow what
> we are discussing here, we should at least leave the effort to do
> so to them.
> Just the 2ct of a citizen of Europe who is upset by the scale in
> which US intelligence systems intrude into the privacy of Europeans.
> Regards, Thomas
> On 09.08.2013 17:17, Felix Ruess wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > the question of a forum came up again lately and since a pure forum
> > already failed in the past one proposition was to maybe move to google
> > groups, which more or less allows usage as either a normal mailing list
> > (you DON'T need a google account) or in a more forum like style via the
> > web interface.
> >
> > Maybe google groups is a bit more accessible for new users than the pure
> > mailing list we have now?
> > Also searching google groups for previous questions/posts/solutions is
> > probably nicer than searching the current paparazzi-devel archive.
> >
> > So what are your thoughts on this? Would it make sense to move the
> > mailing list to google groups (or something else)? Or maybe use several
> > lists, one for users and one for development discussion?
> >
> > Personally I'm fine with either keeping the current paparazzi-devel list
> > or moving to google groups.
> >
> > Cheers, Felix
> >
> >
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