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Re: Changes for emacs 28
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Ergus |
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Re: Changes for emacs 28 |
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Mon, 7 Sep 2020 16:03:32 +0200 |
On Mon, Sep 07, 2020 at 01:05:20PM +0000, Gregory Heytings via Emacs
development discussions. wrote:
The defaults of emacs are really, really bad. And making the whole
thing like what you get with DOOM Emacs is going to cost you lots of
hours reading documentation and experimenting with your
configuration.
That's just wrong. If you want Doom Emacs, you just have to type two
commands:
git clone --depth 1 https://github.com/hlissner/doom-emacs ~/.emacs.d
~/.emacs.d/bin/doom install
The first commands takes two seconds to complete, the second one about
five minutes (it downloads and compiles about 200 MB of code, fonts,
icons, ...). Then you start Emacs, and you're done. That's clearly
not "lots of hours".
I think it refers to convert vanilla emacs in a "doomed like"
experience.
Any way the doom experience is (in my opinion) like the spacemacs
experience. A signal that
1) There are enough people interested enough in emacs (the community)
and we (as developers) are not interacting enough with them or hearing
their concerns and needs.
2) Part of that community are also so annoyed with the defaults (and
have the needed skills) that they tried to create their own "emacs
distro" like a "GNU/Linux distro".
3) They are reinventing the wheel again and again because we don't
attract some of them on board to contribute part of their code into
vanilla.
The existence of larger sub-communities like spacemacs or doom or forks
like remacs is a bad symptom and a waste of manpower we really need.
My last 2 cents on this.
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, (continued)
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, Stefan Kangas, 2020/09/06
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2020/09/07
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, Eli Zaretskii, 2020/09/06
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2020/09/07
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, tomas, 2020/09/07
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, Gregory Heytings, 2020/09/07
- Re: Changes for emacs 28,
Ergus <=
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, Eli Zaretskii, 2020/09/07
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, Richard Stallman, 2020/09/07
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, Gregory Heytings, 2020/09/07
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, Ergus, 2020/09/07
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2020/09/07
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, Eduardo Ochs, 2020/09/07
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, Gregory Heytings, 2020/09/07
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, Robert Pluim, 2020/09/08
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, Richard Stallman, 2020/09/07
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, Gregory Heytings, 2020/09/07