Re: Clojure mode

[Danny Freeman]

Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev> writes:

> On 29/08/2023 04:52, Richard Stallman wrote:
>>    > clojure-mode is an existing package with thousands (tens of thousands?
>>    > millions?) users and certain existing functionality. Other (also
>>    > third-party) packages rely on it for various functionality. It's not a
>>    > bare-bones major mode with basic functionality only.
>> This underscores my point: clojure-mode is an important feature, so
>> Emacs should provide it.  It should be a full-fledged part of Emacs,
>> documented in Emacs.  To leave these jobs to nonrecommended add-ons,
>> such as found in NonGNU-ELPA, is not doing a good job.
>> We hope that Emacs users who write extensions will appreciate Emacs
>> enough to contribute them to Emacs.  Usually they do.  When they
>> don't, that's unfortunate -- but we can make up for it.  It isn't an
>> lot of work compared with all the work we do on Emacs in a year.
>
> It's an important feature for an existing ecosystem of packages whose authors 
> chose to develop and
> distribute them the way they did.
>
> Hijacking the name, at the very least, would bring a lot of problems.

This is the main source of my concern, summed up better than I am able
to put things.

If the concern is having a decent out of the box experience for reading
and editing clojure source files, would enabling `lisp-mode` out of the
box for clojure-mode files be a decent middle ground? That would provide
decent font-locking and indentation, with a simple modification to the
auto-mode-alist. I just tried it on a clojure project and it looks and
behaves decently.

If a user wants a more IDE like experience they could reach for CIDER
from NonGNU Elpa.

-- 
Danny Freeman