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Re: Excessively energy-consuming software considered malware?
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Maxime Devos |
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Re: Excessively energy-consuming software considered malware? |
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Mon, 21 Feb 2022 14:06:07 +0100 |
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Attila Lendvai schreef op ma 21-02-2022 om 09:29 [+0000]:
> let me add, though, that a more apples-to-apples comparison here would be to
> compare Bitcoin to the FED, and PoW to the costs of enforcing the PetroDollar
> system on the entire world.
Here PetroDollar = US dollar and FED=US Federal Government?
> these costs not only include the direct environmental damages of wars and
> militaries. more generally, it also includes the costs of enforcing a certain
> economic structure globally, instead of potential better alternatives for
> facilitating cooperation between strangers that may very well promote peace
> and
> prosperity more effectively and efficiently than the current system.
If the US Government enforces the US Dollar with wars etc., then this
seems more a bug of the US than a benefit of Bitcoin to me. Also, I
don't understand what you mean with ‘enforcing’ here.
Locally, in Belgium, I can use the Euro as currency. The US isn't
forcing me to use the US dollar, in fact I have never seen a US dollar
in person and most (all?) local businesses accept the Euro as currency
and most physical shops wouldn't accept foreign currency(*).
I can also use the US dollar as currency to buy from overseas (after
trading Euro for US dollar, this happens automatically when
e-shopping), even though the US hasn't stationed military forces
at the banks to force the banks to allow converting Euro<->US dollar.
I'm not seeing any enforcement here, nor any need for enforcement to
make the US dollar a usable currency.
While the US would (does?) wage wars to force countries to trade with
the US (and perhaps force them to accept US dollar maybe?), I don't see
how Bitcoin would change this -- Bitcoin might change the currency used
for the forced trade, but not the existence of the forced trade.
(*) at least, I think so, I haven't ever tried.
> and from that perspective i don't see the use of 'absurd amount' justified,
> by a large margin.
>
> and the more some of us disagree with the above, the more appropriate it
> seems to have been to use 'controversial morality' by Martin.
Greetings,
Maxime.
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