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Re: Lyrics, Tab, Titles - simple questions

From: se.e
Subject: Re: Lyrics, Tab, Titles - simple questions
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 22:54:45 +0200

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mats Bengtsson" <address@hidden>
To: "se.e" <address@hidden>
Cc: <address@hidden>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: Lyrics, Tab, Titles - simple questions
> se.e wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mats Bengtsson" <address@hidden>
> >
> >>se.e wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi all!
> >>>I'm a new Lilypond user and I've some very simple questions for you.
> >>>
> >>>1) Titles -- I have:
> >>>tagline= "copyright©2004"
> >>>
> >>>Why in the .pdf '©' is only a 'c' (there's no circle)? This don't works
> >
> > with
> >
> >>>'®' too.
> >>
> >>It works fine here. I hope you use a text editor that saves the file
> >>in latin1 encoding (also called ISO 8859-1).
> >
> >
> > hope but I don't know! :)
> > Seriously, I used NotePad (win98) but I haven't options, I can only
> > the font. In these days I'm tryin' Vim but I don't save the file as
> > 'latin1', I save it 'as *.ly' I wrong? I use the dafault font
> > (Fixedsys). I also have different files type from menu/syntax but there
> > aren't 'latin1' or 'Lilypond'. Except for the '©' and '®', to me it
> > that all works good (using 'save as *.ly).

> At least in NotePad for WindowsXP, there is an option in the Save As
> window, where you can choose Encoding: ANSI (which is exactly what
> you want). I don't remember if you have the same option in Win98.
> The encoding just specifies how the different characters are saved in
> the file. For the ordinary letters of the English language, more or less
> all computers agree, but for more uncommon characters like © or a*, there
> are many different standards.

No, in Win98 there isn't this option...but in WordPad I've got different
options: text, dos-text, unicode-text.
I've made a webpage with all my files (the code I used an *.ly files, too):
(sorry for the spam at the right but it's a free service)

No way to have the circle 'round 'c'!
I've tried:
- Notepad: text and Latex code
- WordPad: text, dos-text (the '©' was changed in ','), unicode-text (this
don't works)
In Win2000 I tried to save in ANSI but nothing change. I know of different
characters (ascii standard or extended), I view them in the Character map (I
tried to copy and paste them)....but I can't understand if I must use
different fonts, for example Curier or Arial, someone that works good in
Latin1 mode 'automatically'. Maybe there is a specific font that I can
install...I don't know....
Do you use a specific font?

> >>As an alternative, you can use the LaTeX command
> >>tagline= "copyright\\copyright{}2004"
> >
> >
> > I wrote this in the 'header' but don't works.

> What do you mean by "doesn't work"? This should definitely work.
> Do you get error messages from lilypond? If not, what do you get
> in the PDF file?

No way to have a '©'! If you have few minutes you can look at the second pdf
in my webpage.

Honesty I have error messages _ever_! But it's a Python error, something
like this:

I followed all the tips with no results.....anyway, if I close all the error
windows, everything seems good.

> >>>2) Tablature --
> >>>if I've a chord (ex. {<<d a d'>>} ), in the .pdf there is a line cross
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>numbers, why? it possible to choose line-up or line-down (from
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>number)?
> >>
> >>I leave tablature questions to others.
> >
> >
> > No problem! I just add that it seems that '\stemUp' and '\stemDown'
> > work in tablature (as fingerings like 'c-2').

> I've never used tablature, but it seems to me that the stem typesetting
> should be done exactly as for normal music, so I don't really understand
> why it doesn't work.

Mats, you're right (2/3 right!), I'm sorry for my poor English language! I
referred to '\stem' in a chord context (it's ok in a single line context,
except for \stemBoth and fingerings). I tried \stemUp, \stemDown, \stemBoth
to avoid the line over the numbers with no results.
It's the last example in my webpage. Anyway, the first single note don't
care about the  \stemBoth!
Thanks again for helping me.


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