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Re: [Phpgroupware-developers] Templates class, CSS support and print vie


From: Chris Weiss
Subject: Re: [Phpgroupware-developers] Templates class, CSS support and print view support
Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 15:54:03 +0000

As Seek3r showed, templates using CSS can honor the color codes specified in the
Themes.

Andy Mayer (address@hidden) wrote*:
>
>I agree that changing colour codes is a good use for themes, but that's
>all. If the template is designed to support changing the CSS too then
>we will only end up with lame templates that trying to please everybody
>and every browser -  but end up looking second-rate and not actualy
>adding much value.
>
>Unfortunately, I include Linux at Work in this category as I don't
>think it does justice to the underlying power of phpgw. Take a look at
>this template for what I am thinking:
>
>http://www.andymayer.net/screen.jpg
>
>Just my 2 cents
>
>Andy
>
>> Templates that fail to support themes annoy me.  For instance the
>Linux at Work
>> template is a great layout but the coloring is really painfull to
>those of us that
>> aren't color blind.  So I made a copy of the template, made it
>support themes, and
>> now I'm happy.
>>
>> The "right" way would be to make a theme to go with your template,
>like idsociety
>> has.
>>
>> Andy Mayer (address@hidden) wrote*:
>> >
>> >> Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) support:
>> >> I am adding a way for template sets and apps to more easily and
>> >> consistantly support CSS.
>> >
>> >I am new to phpgw, but I doubt the value of having themes control
>> >different style sheets for the same template set.
>> >
>> >My preference would be that the designer makes the visual/HTML design
>> >in the template files and that's the end of it; no different colour
>> >themes or selectable CSS options. If he chooses to use CSS to
>implement
>> >his design, then it should be coded in the head.tpl of the template
>and
>> >the user is then forced to use the gui exactly as the designer
>designed
>> >it. Other specific user requirements (eg. colour changes, browser
>> >compatibility issues) should be dealt with by designing a completely
>> >different template set to specificially suit those requirements.
>> >
>> >>From a web-interface perspective, it's seems mad to me that a
>template
>> >should be designed, then only to be messed up by the possibility of
>> >changing CSS and themes colours later on. Also, the overhead of
>> >supporting this in the visual design means that we only end up with
>> >lame templates that try to do everything but end up looking second-
>rate
>> >and not actualy adding much value.
>> >
>> >Does that make sense?
>> >
>> >Look at a template set here that uses a "hard coded CSS" and doesn't
>> >support themes:
>> >
>> >http://www.andymayer.net/screen.jpg
>> >
>> >Just my 2$
>> >
>> >Andy Mayer
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>> >
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