Re: [Phpgroupware-developers] Project Structure

[Reiner Jung]

Am Die, 2003-05-13 um 18.25 schrieb Ralf Becker:
> I always hear the four founders, but I only see the responses from Dan, 
> talking for all of them.
> 
> I would love to hear / read the opionion of Jengo and Skeeter on that 
> points and if they demand eg. infinit veto rights for themselfs.
> 
> Ceb's position seem clear to me, as she signed the paper and is the one 
> exeption it terms of beeing active on the project. Beside her long 
> holiday in india this year, she is always working on the project and 
> reachable by the other contributors.
> 
> Back to the thread here:
> 
> I still see two big / non-negociable points in the discussion:
> 
> 1) veto right
> 2) domain name and trademark
> 
> 1) I see no reason for a veto-right at all. I think the comunity is 
> reasonable and sensible enought to take the right decisions. It does not 
> need a superpower to be able to hold things back on his sole opinion. 
> I'm sure the voice of any of our founders will neither be overheard nor 
> not considered if they raise there voice for any matter.
> 
> 2) For me the fsf is an organisation beyound any concern to take care of 
> these and not to take them away from the project or give them into the 
> wrong hands. So what to fear ...
> 
> Ralf

This i can support full. Why need the control over the brand name and
the domain name? Take it in the hands from the fsf and all will be ok. 
The name and the domain are only needed when :
 - want make a business with it  
 - use it as a pressure again others 

The veto is not needed. When basics are discussed on the list, I'm sure
the decision will follow the best technical solution. On the other side
I'm sure, when a recommendation come from people with deep technical
background the people will agree. 

But don't forget. In many projects the programmers make software not for
the people which should use it later. They take a look at the
"technical" background. Why don't give the translator the chance to
vote. Normally the translator/other devs don't vote for the technical
detail. The translator is maybe one from this users, which can't handle
a function, from which the developers thing all people need it. 

Make FREE software which make the users happy. Not only free on the
LABEL, FREE in her mind generally.


 Jung <address@hidden>
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