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Re: [Bug-gnubg] Export positions to GammOnLine format

From: Joern Thyssen
Subject: Re: [Bug-gnubg] Export positions to GammOnLine format
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:35:13 +0000
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On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 10:15:48AM +0100, Ian Shaw wrote
> > From: Joern Thyssen [mailto:address@hidden
> > 
> > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 12:54:38PM +0100, Ian Shaw wrote
> > 
> > I'll use c_center.gif for centered cube. This should be fixed now.
> > 
> c_center.gif is a centered cube. The actual position calls for
> c_blank.gif because Blue owns the cube.

Yes, I know :-) gnubg uses c_center.gif for centered cube and
c_blank.gif for non-centered cube now.

> > > The big, bold fonts for Game Number and players/match score 
> > don't look right
> > > here. Can they be made normal size please?
> > > The two horizontal separators don't really need to be 
> > there. They break the
> > > post up with greater intensity than the separations between 
> > multiple posts.
> > 
> > Can you be more specific: is it only a problem for export to GoL or is
> > it a general problem? Is it only a problem for export of 
> > positions or is
> > it a general problem?
> >

> This is simply a question of aesthetics. If you look at the example I
> sent you, you should see what I mean. The large fonts completely
> dominate the thread, so the look of the thing is a bit clumsy. I don't
> tend to post on other BBS, but I think the same comment would apply to
> GammonVillage. For a straightforward export to html I think the large
> fonts are OK, but I've no strong feelings on the matter.
> > BTW, how do you export the output from gnubg into GoL? By
> > copy'n'paste of the board section?
> > 
> I save the file to html, open it in Notepad and copy & paste the board
> section. This is rather unwieldy so if you could streamline the
> process it would be fab. Ideally it would be great to put the board
> position straight into the paste buffer so I could paste it into the
> GoL message page. If you look at the output generated by GoFigure
> you'll see that it's rather shorter than GnuBg's.

The export position command was indented for exporting positions to a
stand-alone web page, but I see there is a demand for export of just the
position for copy'n'paste into, say, GoL.

I think I'll add commands for easy pasting of just the board. Do you
need to include analysis as well, or is it sufficient just to copy the
board onto the clipboard?

> > > Is there a good reason for the W3 link buttons? They are 
> > non-bg related and
> > > it's not obvious what they are for.
> > 
> > To let people know that gnubg produces well-formed and 
> > validating xhtml
> > 1.0. That is, we follow the standards set-up by W3C. The output
> > generated by Snowie 3.0 does *not* validate, thus, some 
> > browsers may have
> > problems rendering html files proceduced by Snowie. 
> > 

> Hmmm. I can understand why you'd want to play one-upmanship with
> Snowie, and I totally agree with adhering to standards. However, I
> think if folks start making extensive use of GnuBg to post positions,
> those little buttons will be quite irritating. They break up the
> thread and take up too much screen space considering the amount of use
> or interest they'll get.

I prefer to keep the images on the stand-alone export, but the new
copy-of-board function will of course not include the pictures,
horizontal lines, large fonts etc.


Joern Thyssen, PhD
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