Re: Multiple Score Typesetter font sizes

[Joe Wilkinson]

I went looking in the denemo file and found a series of XML blocks which 
clearly followed each other.
I had assumed it would be some sort of If.. THEN.. ELSEIF block,
but it sets the standard layout and then changes it dependent on any 
conditions met in the extra (Print)Set Overall Score Size items.
curious
Joe

     <directive>
        <tag>SetFontSize</tag>
        <prefix>#(set-global-staff-size 18) </prefix>
        <data>18</data>
        <override>2</override>
      </directive>

      <directive>
        <tag>SetFontSize Score</tag>
        <prefix>#(set-global-staff-size 13) </prefix>
        <display>Duplicate: </display>
        <data>13</data>
        <override>2</override>
        <allow>
          <layout>2045988384</layout>
        </allow>
      </directive>

      <directive>
        <tag>SetFontSize Guitar</tag>
        <prefix>#(set-global-staff-size 21) </prefix>
        <display>Duplicate: </display>
        <data>21</data>
        <override>2</override>
        <allow>
          <layout>1167509051</layout>
        </allow>
      </directive>



On 06/02/2022 12:52, Richard Shann wrote:
> On Sun, 2022-02-06 at 12:19 +0000, Dominic Shann wrote:
> > I have to admit I find this issue a bit mind boggling at present – no
> > doubt in time it will get easier – but the idea of being asked if you
> > want to make the score size conditional, and thus not having to look
> > under the bonnet is appealing. I guess, though, if you decided to
> > change your mind about the size for one of the layouts then you’d
> > have to go into score properties? Or could you override it with a new
> > directive???
> yes, creating another conditional directive for Score Size with the
> same condition would result in the new one (being last) having effect
> and the other would just be debris; the prospect of people having their
> file silt up with disused directives rather put me off this.
>
> The other thing that is a bit off-putting is that score size is only
> one of dozens (?) of properties this could be applied to, which would
> mean modifying dozens of scripts... Would it, instead, make sense if
> when you make a directive conditional it offered to apply this not to
> the directive itself but to a newly created duplicate, perhaps with the
> complementary condition applied to the original...
>
> So, e.g., making a score size conditional "only for" one part name
> would optionally create this condition on a duplicate while making the
> original (settable) score size "ignore for" that part. I'm not at all
> sure trying to hide the underlying mechanics would be such a good
> idea...
>
> Richard
>
> >   
> > PS My preferred size for reading is size 20, but can manage with 18
> > if necessary...
> >   
> > Dom x
> >   
> > Sent from Mail for Windows
> >   
> > From: Richard Shann
> > Sent: 05 February 2022 15:02
> > To: Joe and Angela Wilkinson; denemo-devel
> > Subject: Re: Multiple Score Typesetter font sizes
> >   
> > On Sat, 2022-02-05 at 14:27 +0000, Joe and Angela Wilkinson wrote:
> > > Hi Richard,
> > > I have a score which needs, say, 3 different Font sizes.
> > > 13 for the Score, to keep pages down,
> > > 18 for most parts
> > > 22 for Guitars which need bigger dots (I'm told).
> > > It is under development, so needs periodic changes and reprints,
> > > and
> > > it is good when I don't need to remember the size for each Layout.
> > > You told me how to do this and it works, but is clumsy; for example
> > >   * Set overall Score Size as 18
> > >   * Go into Score Properties Editor, find (Print) Set overall Score
> > > Size and Duplicate it, twice
> > >   *  * This produces a duplicate but without the Execute command
> > > button
> > >   * Go to first duplicate and, using Advanced change the 18 to 33 in
> > > 2
> > > places.
> >   
> > Did I really suggest this? That is, as it says Advanced and isn't the
> > best route - sorry! Instead
> > * Set overall Score Size as 13
> > * Go into Score Properties Editor, find (Print) Set overall Score
> >    Size and Duplicate it, ONCE
> > * Make the duplicate conditional on Only for Default Layout
> > * Set overall Score Size as 22
> > * Go into Score Properties Editor, find (Print) Set overall Score
> >    Size and Duplicate it, ONCE
> > * Make the duplicate conditional on Only for Guitar
> > * Set overall Score Size as 18
> >   
> > Now when typesetting anything other than Default Score Layout or
> > Guitar
> > the size 18 will be used, while the other two sizes will kick in for
> > those.
> >   
> > > Then make it conditional on Layout: Default Score Layout
> > >   * Go to second duplicate and, using Advanced change the 18 to 22
> > > in
> > > 2 places. Then make it conditional on Layout: Guitar
> > > Perhaps this just IS Advanced in which case OK, but could it be
> > > possible to have the Execute Command button as well
> >   
> > what you have in mind here is, could these duplicate Directives be
> > subject to the editing process that executing (Print) Set Overall
> > Score
> > Size does on the original? They could - the script could look for
> > duplicates and offer to change any one of them. When I thought about
> > that I decided that not to go for it at present. Another possibility
> > would be to offer to make any score size setting conditional and (in
> > essence) create the duplicate for you if you decide you do want it to
> > be conditional. That way the user never needs to look at the Score
> > Properties Editor. But as it stands you need a model in your head of
> > the score size Directives being stored one after the other with only
> > the first one being editable via the (Print) Set Overall Score Size
> > command.
> >   
> > But you shouldn't have to edit the values inside the low-level
> > directive editor, it's too error prone. Instead edit the default one
> > via the command and then duplicate & conditionalize it, finally
> > setting
> > the default one to the value to be used by default.
> >   
> > Richard
> >   
> >   
> >