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Re: The Path of GNUstep (Was: Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?)

From: Chris Hanson
Subject: Re: The Path of GNUstep (Was: Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?)
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:18:42 -0500

At 2:27 AM -0400 9/24/02, Jeff Teunissen wrote:
This time, you are absolutely wrong. Most OS X developers know about
GNUstep. Why aren't they here? The simple fact is, not many of them CARE.

Not entirely.

Many, many people have been watching GNUstep for years. They just judge it not ready for prime time yet. And many Mac OS X developers are interested in building great applications, not working on the core frameworks.

Three things that would get Mac OS X developers using GNUstep:

* 100% of the basic AppKit working. I don't know where GNUstep stands on this right now. It doesn't have to have all the bells and whistles that the Cocoa AppKit does, but it also has to not have huge gaps in major functionality.

* The ability to easily port from Cocoa to GNUstep. A simple nib converter that's completely independent of GNUstep would go a long way here.

* Windows support that they can deploy commercial applications with (i.e. no cygwin).

Right now, it looks like it'll take a bunch of effort to port the average Cocoa application to GNUstep, which many developers would rather devote to making their Cocoa applications better. (Isn't the interface in GNUMail.app hard-coded? That's something most Cocoa programmers won't be interested in doing. At all.) The tipping point, I think, will be Windows compatibility: If their investment of effort means they can also ship their applications for Windows, they may put it in.

  -- Chris
  -- Mac OS X developer, long-time GNUstep observer

PS - I have a couple of Open Source frameworks for Cocoa that GNUstep developers may also find useful. Check out BDControl and BDRuleEngine on the bDistributed.com web site. If there's interest, I'll put tarballs of the latest sources on the site. (The code is under a BSD-style license.)

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