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Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like
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Nick Roberts |
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Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like |
Date: |
Mon, 7 Jan 2008 19:15:53 +1300 |
Trey Jackson writes:
> On Jan 6, 2008 10:09 AM, Richard Stallman <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> > The graphical improvements to GUD are nice, but as far as I can see,
> > the new
> > features are limited to viewing GUD data.
> >
> > Isn't that what an IDE is? Something to let you look at execution
> > data and source code in a convenient coordinated way?
>
>
> As in my other email, an IDE is often more - pulling together bug tracking,
> plug-ins for profilers, code browsers, project planning, etc. The improved
> GUD is nice, but other IDEs have a lot more. (if you want to want to go
> that route))
Projects like Eclipse will always have "a lot more" because they have millions
of dollars of investment behind them.
> > project management (files & build)
> >
> > What does that mean? Is it some alternative to makefiles?
> >
>
> Yeah, a number of IDEs have this (GreenHills, MSVS). I find them awkward
> and confusing. My understanding is that the IDE then knows about all the
> files in the 'project' and can automatically generate tags, do class
> browsing, and other such things.
And if you want to move your code to another IDE presumably it's difficult
because the metadata storing the project information is unique to each IDE.
>...
> > manage window configurations (Eclipse calls them perspectives)
> >
> > I would like to know more about this. Emacs lacks convenient features
> > to usefully save and adjust window configurations, and it would be nice
> > to add that as a general feature.
> >
>
> I don't know much about it, just that it appears that you can set up window
> configurations for each task, e.g. the window arrangement for the new
> GUD-ui, one for actually coding (perhaps with class browser (ECB?)), one for
> interacting with VCS, etc. This does appear to be a high return on
> investment kind of project.
Eclipse can use perspectives because it's an IDE, and no more: the user can't
suddenly decide to write an e-mail, read news or view images. I know
ECB uses dedicated windows just like gdb-ui.el to constrain the display, I'm
not sure that they would work well together. It may be a high return but I
don't think it's a trivial task to make something workable.
> ...
> side note: this is why I brought up the whole IDE subject, because perhaps
> some of the functionality would be found to be useful...
I don't think anyone would disagree.
--
Nick http://www.inet.net.nz/~nickrob
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