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Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
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Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like |
Date: |
Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:28:31 +0200 |
> From: Miles Bader <address@hidden>
> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:03:50 +0900
> Cc: address@hidden
>
> "Juanma Barranquero" <address@hidden> writes:
> > I doubt Cygwin can be "a fine solution" for anything, but that's just me.
>
> There seem to be a fair number of windows users who have some sort of
> gripe with cygwin, but I've never quite understood what it
> is...
The gripe is threefold:
. You cannot install a single Cygwin package seamlessly, without
pulling in a whole bunch of other packages (which could
potentially conflict with whatever else you have on your
machine -- a hassle, since Cygwin is subtly incompatible with
non-Cygwin programs).
. There can be only one Cygwin DLL on any given system. This is a
hassle: e.g., it practically requires that you always upgrade all
your Cygwin packages whenever a new version is uploaded.
. Compared to native ports, Cygwin is slow.
The first two problems mean in practice that Cygwin is a catholic
marriage, unless one has lots of time to tinker with their system.
There: now you've heard it.
> Yes, obviously in the long run, the msys git port will probably be
> preferable to the majority of developers. What you say above seems to
> indicate it's further along than I realized.
MSYS is just a fork of Cygwin, and as such, shares most of its
problems mentioned above. Its primary goal was to provide a _build_
environment for native MinGW ports, not a platform to produce ports
used outside of the build environment for their own good.
- Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like, (continued)
- Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like, Nick Roberts, 2008/01/07
- Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like, Richard Stallman, 2008/01/06
- Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like, Trey Jackson, 2008/01/07
- Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like, Nick Roberts, 2008/01/07
- Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like, Stefan Monnier, 2008/01/07
Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like, Jari Aalto, 2008/01/19
- Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like, dhruva, 2008/01/19
- Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like, Juanma Barranquero, 2008/01/20
- Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like, Juanma Barranquero, 2008/01/20
- Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like, Miles Bader, 2008/01/20
- Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like, Karl Fogel, 2008/01/20
- Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like, Miles Bader, 2008/01/20
- Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like, Nick Roberts, 2008/01/20
- Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like, Miles Bader, 2008/01/20
- Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2008/01/20
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