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Re: face for non-ASCII characters
From: |
Lennart Borgman |
Subject: |
Re: face for non-ASCII characters |
Date: |
Thu, 21 Apr 2011 20:42:08 +0200 |
2011/4/21 Ted Zlatanov <address@hidden>:
> On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 23:38:12 +0200 Lennart Borgman <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> LB> 2011/4/20 Ted Zlatanov <address@hidden>:
>>>
> LB> I do not know how ELPA handles this. (But I do not think there is any
> LB> problems installing all of nXhtml. Everything is autoloaded.)
>>>
>>> All I want is an easy way to display suspicious characters (as I recall
>>> from when we started this discussion over a year ago). I have no
>>> problem that you're hosting markchars.el inside nXhtml and I can mirror
>>> just that one file into the GNU ELPA, but if nXhtml has to be
>>> *installed* in order to use markchars.el, I'll have to write my own
>>> version. I think installing a large, unrelated package is an
>>> unnecessary burden on those who just want to detect suspicious
>>> characters. Can you please confirm one way or the other so I know what
>>> I need to do, mirror or rewrite?
>>>
>>> Just to be clear, mirroring markchars.el does not require you to change
>>> anything. The GNU ELPA machine will pull the latest markchars.el down
>>> daily, that's all.
>
> LB> nXhtml is not very much more monolitic than ELPA actually. You can use
> LB> just the basic libraries in nXhtml and get the rest downloaded
> LB> automatically when you try to access them. So it contains kind of
> LB> "ELPA" inside.
>
> LB> But that is not the point here, but since you took it up I mention it.
>
> LB> As I tried to say nXhtml will somehow be mirrored in ELPA and Reuben
> LB> has said that he want to contribute to that process. So please try to
> LB> discuss this witrh him.
>
> If you think about it, this is not a good user experience.
>
> "You should beware domain names with suspicious characters that are not
> in the same script. markchars.el can do it."
>
> "How do I install it?"
>
> "You have to install nXhtml, a web development environment."
>
> "???"
Yes, the name and description is misleading. I have been waiting for
something like ELPA (with the additonal capabilities in that area that
nXhtml provides).
> Sorry if this is not what you want to do, but it really doesn't make
> sense to force the user to install nXhtml in order to detect suspicious
> characters. So I think mirroring or rewriting markchars.el are the only
> options to provide a good user experience. I can't think of any others.
You are maybe misunderstanding part of this. For me the transition is
the problem (and maybe the current lack of dynamic loading of
libraries from ELPA). I do agree with you where markchars.el should be
in the end. It should be in ELPA or Emacs. It is the road we have to
think about.
- Re: face for non-ASCII characters, (continued)
- Re: face for non-ASCII characters, Lennart Borgman, 2011/04/16
- Re: face for non-ASCII characters, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/04/18
- Re: face for non-ASCII characters, Lennart Borgman, 2011/04/18
- Re: face for non-ASCII characters, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/04/18
- Re: face for non-ASCII characters, Lennart Borgman, 2011/04/18
- Re: face for non-ASCII characters, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/04/19
- Re: face for non-ASCII characters, Lennart Borgman, 2011/04/19
- Re: face for non-ASCII characters, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/04/20
- Re: face for non-ASCII characters, Lennart Borgman, 2011/04/20
- Re: face for non-ASCII characters, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/04/21
- Re: face for non-ASCII characters,
Lennart Borgman <=
- Re: face for non-ASCII characters, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/04/21
- Re: face for non-ASCII characters, Lennart Borgman, 2011/04/21
- Re: face for non-ASCII characters, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/04/21
- Re: face for non-ASCII characters, Lennart Borgman, 2011/04/21
- Re: face for non-ASCII characters, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/04/21
- Re: face for non-ASCII characters, Lennart Borgman, 2011/04/22
- Re: face for non-ASCII characters, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2011/04/22
- Re: face for non-ASCII characters, Lennart Borgman, 2011/04/22
- Re: face for non-ASCII characters, Richard Stallman, 2011/04/22
- Re: face for non-ASCII characters, Lennart Borgman, 2011/04/23