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Re: face for non-ASCII characters

From: Ted Zlatanov
Subject: Re: face for non-ASCII characters
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:35:04 -0500
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 22:00:38 +0200 Lennart Borgman <address@hidden> wrote: 

LB> 2011/4/21 Ted Zlatanov <address@hidden>:
>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 20:42:08 +0200 Lennart Borgman <address@hidden> wrote:
LB> You are maybe misunderstanding part of this. For me the transition is
LB> the problem (and maybe the current lack of dynamic loading of
LB> libraries from ELPA).
>> I'm not sure what you mean about dynamic loading.

LB> What I mean here is what can be used in nXhtml: If you (require
LB> 'somelib) and somelib.el is not on your computer then you can have it
LB> automatically downloaded from nXhtml repository (with a possibility to
LB> check the code before actually installing it).

I would be strongly opposed to opportunistic package installations in
general, although nXhtml can use it internally of course.

>> Package installation from the GNU ELPA (and ELPA in general) is
>> static: you install what you want synchronously, there is no
>> "auto-install this when I need it" functionality.  Do you mean this
>> is an issue?

LB> Yes. It makes it more difficult to integrate elisp libraries. This is
LB> one of the reasons I have kept so many things in nXhtml. If ELPA had
LB> that possibility I would not hesitate to move things into ELPA.
LB> (Unfortunately for this to work realy  reliable a (simple) change in
LB> `require' is needed.)

You should make that dynamic loading proposal separately and maybe it
will be accepted, but as far as markchars.el goes, since it will reside
in nXhtml, you can still do the nXhtml opportunistic installs if the
user hasn't installed it from the GNU ELPA statically.

>> As I said markchars.el can be simply mirrored into the GNU ELPA nightly
>> from the nXhtml repository.  Is that the road you're referring to?  Or
>> does something else about the mirroring worry you?  How would you like
>> to tell users to install it, if my proposal is not OK for some reason?

LB> At the moment just grab it from the nXhtml repository. You can
LB> download it from the web page there.

Sorry, is "just grab it" advice for me to mirror into the GNU ELPA, or
advice for the end user?  I hope it's the former but just making sure...


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