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Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole

From: Richard Stallman
Subject: Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2016 18:22:29 -0400

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  > I'll try to stop, but for the last time: they are not "bundled" from the
  > user's POV!!!

Yes they are bundled from a user's point of view.
They are documented as a single bundle called "Org mode"
which can do many different things.

They are also bundled in implementation, and the code would
be clearer if they were separated in a modular way.

These are two different problems.  Perhaps a single redesign
could fix them both.

  > > This feature seems to make sense, but I don't see that it does something
  > > useful for me.

  > Well, it does something useful for a lot of people.

I am sure that is true, but that is not the issue.

When I said

  > This feature seems to make sense, but I don't see that it does something
  > useful for me.

I said it in the context of a particular argument.  You said

  > >   > By typing one or more asterisks followed by space at the beginning of
  > >   > a line, you start a heading (like in vanilla Emacs' Outline mode).
  > >   > By pressing TAB when point is on a headline, you cycle through various
  > >   > possible visibility states.

and I responded that this is not useful for me.

You seemed to take that as an attempt to prove that "Org mode is not
useful", but that's not what I am arguing for.  We are failing to
communicate.  Perhaps you think I am arguing that "Org mode is no

However, my conclusion is something else.

This outline visibility feature seems to be the basic feature of Org
mode.  When I read about how to use Org mode, I saw things I wasn't
interested in, followed by more things I wasn't interested in.

After a while I got tired of spending time on it, so I didn't
read any more, and didn't try to actually use Org mode.

If there are other features in Org mode which I might find useful, I
didn't learn how to use them, because I had given up on reading
before I got to them.

Dr Richard Stallman
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