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Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole
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Richard Stallman |
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Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole |
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Wed, 06 Jul 2016 18:22:29 -0400 |
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> I'll try to stop, but for the last time: they are not "bundled" from the
> user's POV!!!
Yes they are bundled from a user's point of view.
They are documented as a single bundle called "Org mode"
which can do many different things.
They are also bundled in implementation, and the code would
be clearer if they were separated in a modular way.
These are two different problems. Perhaps a single redesign
could fix them both.
> > This feature seems to make sense, but I don't see that it does something
> > useful for me.
> Well, it does something useful for a lot of people.
I am sure that is true, but that is not the issue.
When I said
> This feature seems to make sense, but I don't see that it does something
> useful for me.
I said it in the context of a particular argument. You said
> > > By typing one or more asterisks followed by space at the beginning of
> > > a line, you start a heading (like in vanilla Emacs' Outline mode).
> > > By pressing TAB when point is on a headline, you cycle through various
> > > possible visibility states.
and I responded that this is not useful for me.
You seemed to take that as an attempt to prove that "Org mode is not
useful", but that's not what I am arguing for. We are failing to
communicate. Perhaps you think I am arguing that "Org mode is no
good."
However, my conclusion is something else.
This outline visibility feature seems to be the basic feature of Org
mode. When I read about how to use Org mode, I saw things I wasn't
interested in, followed by more things I wasn't interested in.
After a while I got tired of spending time on it, so I didn't
read any more, and didn't try to actually use Org mode.
If there are other features in Org mode which I might find useful, I
didn't learn how to use them, because I had given up on reading
before I got to them.
--
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org)
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- Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, (continued)
Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, Scott Randby, 2016/07/01
Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, Scott Randby, 2016/07/01
Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, John Mastro, 2016/07/01
Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, Eli Zaretskii, 2016/07/02
Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, Achim Gratz, 2016/07/02
Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, Eli Zaretskii, 2016/07/02
Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, Eli Zaretskii, 2016/07/02
Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, Marcin Borkowski, 2016/07/05
Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, Eli Zaretskii, 2016/07/05
Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, Marcin Borkowski, 2016/07/05
Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, Eli Zaretskii, 2016/07/06