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Re: [ELPA] New package: jami-bot and org-jami-bot


From: Eli Zaretskii
Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: jami-bot and org-jami-bot
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 15:59:03 +0200

> From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
> Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>, rms@gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net,
>  hanno@hoowl.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 12:38:07 +0000
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >> ...  The Org maintainers themselves proposed
> >> some features (org-protocol and org-capture) that are good candidates to
> >> separate from Org in this very thread.
> >
> > What about ox-* packages?  Could they be converted to more
> > generally-useful export capabilities for Emacs?
> 
> Kind of. ox-* packages mostly rely on ox.el capabilities + Org mode
> parsed representation. ox.el is also relying on the parsed
> representation, except a few places.

Yes, I know.  And that is the problem I'm pointing to: export
capabilities should ideally not depend on a specific parser, let alone
an Org-specific one.  Because export capabilities can be beneficial in
much more places in Emacs than just Org buffers.

> If someone writes a parser that can understand alternative, non-Org
> markup of source files, and produce org-element-ast.el-compatible list
> structure, most of the ox-* exporters should remain functional.

It would be better to allow alternative data structures to be input to
the export functionality, rather than expect other features to mimic
the Org parser and its outputs.



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