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Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment (was: [RFC] Proposal for rebin

From: Samuel Wales
Subject: Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment (was: [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3)
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 12:43:30 -0700

hi karl,

it is true that there are assumptions about the user's environment.
the strongest is probably qwerty, followed by european language,
english, and common layouts.  as a native english speaker, i am aware
that i am fortunate in that regard.  i get to use utf-8 without making
my text files larger, unlike some asian speakers, for example.

HOWEVER: my point was not about the user's environment at all.  it
applies to whatever environment is chosen for the assumptions.

on qwerty, c is on the lhs.  ' is on the rhs.  /that/ is why c-c c-'
is more cumbersome for using two hands for modifiers.  remember: using
one hand for both modifier and key is never an option.


hope that clarifies.


On 2/9/14, Karl Voit <address@hidden> wrote:
> * Samuel Wales <address@hidden> wrote:
> Hi!
>> i meant that c-c c-' and c-c c-" are both cumbersome for those users
>> who press c-c by holding down the control key with the right hand and
>> then pressing c with the left hand.  c-c ' is not cumbersome for those
>> users.
> Oh, this is a sensitive subject :-)
> For example: I am happily removing CAPS LOCK on all of my computers
> and replace it with an additional CTRL key. This way, I am using my
> left pinkie for all kinds of CTRL-combinations. As long as it is not
> combined with [`123q~] or TAB, I am fine.
> And: although I am living in a German speaking country, I am using
> US_intl keyboard settings. Most keyboard shortcuts make more sense
> since I switched. Unfortunately, software developers who define
> keyboard shortcuts have either settle for their own keyboard layout
> (mostly en_US) or keyboard shortcuts are part of the i18n layer
> which has also some drawbacks IMHO.
> The point is: when you are settling for keyboard shortcuts, you are
> going to do some assumptions on the environment of your users. So:
> what are these assumptions for Emacs/Org-mode? I guess this is the
> root question we should try to answer (and document).
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