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Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0

From: Dominik Schrempf
Subject: Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 21:13:19 +0100
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“Thomas S. Dye” <tsd@tsdye.online> writes:

> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:
>> Vikas Rawal <vikasrawal@gmail.com> writes:
>>> What is the general view of the community about this? Is there a
>>> comprehensive discussion of pros and cons of each?
>> Prof. Kitchin himself provided a summary on why he decided to give up on
>> using org-cite. See <https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref/issues/892>
> This claim in Kitchin’s summary surprised me:
> “It comes down to org-ref using bibtex/biblatex as the predominant citation
> processor, and org-cite using CSL. These two processors have different 
> syntaxes,
> and I don’t think it is possible to have a single approach that works for both
> of them without making compromises in capability.”
> I wonder what are the “compromises in capability” required to support both?
> I haven’t found them yet, though I’m just now finishing old projects started
> prior to the release of org-cite and haven’t worked through a LaTeX export
> project with it.  My first, and so far only, project with org-cite was for a
> simple html-based presentation using CSL, and I was pleased with the results 
> and
> relative ease of setup.
> All the best,
> Tom

For what it’s worth, I use `org-ref` because fine-grained citation export with
LaTeX (using BibTeX or BibLaTeX) only works with `org-ref`, and not with

If I remember correctly, `org-cite` exports the formatted citations into the
LaTeX file, which is a no-go for me (let me know if I am wrong). Then, for
example, it is really difficult to use different style files, etc. With
`org-ref`, I can use BibLaTeX with specific style files. (Journal require
different style files). I can even use my personal LaTeX classes (with specific
bibliography styles) for Org export.

Not sure if this helps…, but this is maybe what John Kitchin is referring to.


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