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Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0

From: John Kitchin
Subject: Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 11:33:26 -0400
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I have updated the readme in org-ref to indicate you can use both

Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> writes:

> On 21/03/2022 18:51, John Kitchin wrote:
>> Vikas Rawal writes:
>>>  From the perspective of a user, this was only meant to express a
>>> sentiment that one finds oneself in a situation of having to choose
>>> between two good things, and that we have not been able to find a way
>>> to make both compatible with each other. It was in not meant as a
>>> disrespect in any way.
>> I don't think you have to choose. You can use org-cite for
>> citations, and org-ref for cross-references. The citation syntax is
>> orthogonal, you just should not mix them. You can even wire org-ref to
>> use org-cite-insert like this:
>> (setq org-ref-insert-cite-function (lambda () (org-cite-insert nil)))
> I am glad to read this. John, could you, please, update the README file for
> https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref to clarify that both packages may be used
> within the same document while org-ref is used solely for cross-references (I
> may create a github issue if your prefer)? From my point of view the following
> phrase may be considered as prohibitive in respect to combining the packages 
> for
> any purpose:
>> You can use both org-cite and org-ref (although you should not do that in the
>> same document as they are independent citation tools).
> I feel some ambiguity in the starting message in this thread:
> Vikas Rawal, Sun, 20 Mar 2022 17:38:30 +0530.
> CALtzAB2BHULDOXaamUZFQh2H453Ekb6K7bkOHbU-dHPn98avwg@mail.gmail.com">https://list.orgmode.org/CALtzAB2BHULDOXaamUZFQh2H453Ekb6K7bkOHbU-dHPn98avwg@mail.gmail.com
>> This obviously creates many problems including that two people using
>> different citation systems cannot share org files.
> Accordingly to the org-ref README installed org-ref package does not break
> org-cite, so people are free to share documents. They just should have both
> packages configured and should adhere to a chosen package in each document 
> (for
> *citations*).

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