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Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch

From: Miles Bader
Subject: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:19:25 -0400
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On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 03:50:05PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> it would seem emacs is broken in the way it edits files anyway, if you
> turn off backup files it works fine, if you don't things like ACLs and
> xattr are destroyed.

No, people are not going to `turn off backup files.'  Emacs can make backup
files by copying instead, if you want, but that loses several important
properties; the one that concerns _me_ the most (besides the added
inefficiency for large files), is that it doesn't snap hard links in that
case, and snapping hard-links is an important part of using hard-linked trees
(other important programs like patch also snap hard-links).

If xattr/acl proponents want their ideas to prosper, they're going to have to
offer good solutions for such issues, not mutter that programs like emacs are

One possibility would be to start standardizing a `copy file attributes'
interface that emacs could use when available instead of doing it in an
ad-hoc manner (maybe such an interface exists already, I don't know).

Yo mama's so fat when she gets on an elevator it HAS to go down.

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