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Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project
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Taylan Kammer |
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Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project |
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Thu, 17 Oct 2019 20:59:41 +0200 |
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On 14.10.2019 21:20, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
> Since the GNU project is a software project, it has no gender to speak
> of (it neither lacks one, or has one). So there is little point
> trying to define it as some specific gender. And by virtue of being a
> free software project, it cannot exclude anyone.
Of course it can. If a person belonging to group X knows that the GNU
project includes a large number of people who are hostile to members of
group X, which they show through their casual language and behavior,
then the person is unlikely to become a contributor to GNU.
> Trying to reach out to more groups is probobly better suited for
> organizations like the FSF.
The issue is not an active effort of outreach but rather an effort to
not scare off potential contributors.
> I think why the GNU Kindness Guidelines concentrate on how to be kind,
> instead of specifying what is unkind is that the former is far more
> positive, and happier to read than the later.
There is no point in endorsing kindness when people vastly disagree on
what kindness means.
For instance, a lot of men evidently have very little idea of what a lot
of women consider unkind, hence the continued issues with making women
feel welcome.
- Taylan
P.S.: Please tell me if this discussion is continuing on a mailing list
where it's on-topic, so I can move there too.
- Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project, (continued)
- Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2019/10/14
- Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project, marinus.savoritias, 2019/10/14
- Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2019/10/14
- Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project, marinus.savoritias, 2019/10/15
- Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project, Ruben Safir, 2019/10/15
- Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project, Richard Stallman, 2019/10/21
- Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project, Richard Stallman, 2019/10/21
- Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project, Richard Stallman, 2019/10/14
- Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project, Gavin Smith, 2019/10/15
- Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project, Richard Stallman, 2019/10/16
- Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project,
Taylan Kammer <=
- Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2019/10/21
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- Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project, Richard Stallman, 2019/10/21
- Re: free software project cannot exclude anyone by virtue (was: Joint statement on the GNU Project), Dmitry Alexandrov, 2019/10/23
- Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project, marinus.savoritias, 2019/10/14
- Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project, Ruben Safir, 2019/10/14
- Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project, Ruben Safir, 2019/10/14
- Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project, Brandon Invergo, 2019/10/15
- Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project, Ruben Safir, 2019/10/15
- Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project, Jean Louis, 2019/10/15
- Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2019/10/15