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Re: Re-approaching package tagging

From: swedebugia
Subject: Re: Re-approaching package tagging
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 21:57:59 +0100

Hi :)

On 2018-12-17 20:01, Christopher Lemmer Webber wrote:

In the past when we've discussed package tagging, I think Ludo' has been
against it, primarily because it's a giant source of bikeshedding.  I
agree that it's a huge space for bikeshedding... no space provides more
bikeshedding than naming things, and tagging things is a many to many
naming system.

However, I will say that finding packages based on topical interest is
pretty hard right now.  If I want to find all the available roguelikes:

address@hidden:~$ guix package -A rogue
hyperrogue      10.5    out     gnu/packages/games.scm:3652:2
roguebox-adventures     2.2.1   out     gnu/packages/games.scm:1047:2

Hm, that's strange, there's definitely more roguelikes that should show
up than that!  A more specific search is even worse:

address@hidden:~$ guix package -A roguelike

What I should have gotten back:
  - angband
  - cataclysm-dda
  - crawl
  - crawl-tiles
  - hyperrogue
  - nethack
  - roguebox-adventures
  - tome4

So I only got 1/4 of the entries I was interested in in my first query.
Too bad!

I get that we're opening up space for bikeshedding and *that's true*.
But it seems like not doing so makes things hard on users.

What do you think?  Is there a way to open the (pandora's?) box of tags

Yes and no.

Pjotr and I have discussed this relating to biotech software. He said that many scientists have a hard time finding the right tools for the job.

I proposed tight integration with wikidata[1] (every software in the world will eventually have an item there) and Guix (QID on every package and lookup/catogory integration) and leave all the categorizing to them. Ha problem sidestepped, they are bikeshedding experts over there in wikiland! :D

The advantage of this is that everyone using wikidata (every package manager) could pull the same categorization so we only do it once in a central

What do you think?

Cheers Swedebugia

[1] I started the work lately with bindings here help is welcome!

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