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Re: [Health] Name vs Last Name in Tryton vs GNU Health / Expiry dates fo

From: Luis Falcon
Subject: Re: [Health] Name vs Last Name in Tryton vs GNU Health / Expiry dates for lot numbers in stock management
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:25:14 -0300

Hi Chris !

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Christoph H. Larsen <address@hidden> wrote:
Dear Crowd,

I continue to be a bit confused by the "Name" and "Last Name fields in
Tryton, and their use in GNU Health.

In Tryton itself, I got the impression that "Name" should be the FULL
name of the respective party, e.g. "John Cage". The "Last Name" field
was an addendum to clearly determine, which name component is the
surname (here: "Cage"), and is subsequently used by Tryton's reporting
If, still in Tryton, I enter only the first name ("John") into the
"Name" field, and "Cage" into the "Last Name" field, I get only "John"
in the Party listing and letters/reports - which is hardly desirable.

So, while this:
Name: John Cage | Last name: Cage
works in Tryton, with a listing as "John Cage", and letters addressed to it,
the same yields a patient name of "Cage, John Cage". Ouch!

Given the multitude of different countries GNU Health is (going to be)
used in, Tryton's philosophy of stating the full name, and then again
the surname (or name used for politely addressing the respective party)
makes sense. Example:
"Minh Anh Quan Trung" in Vietnam is the full name of a person, but the
surname is Minh (East Asian naming order). To make life more
complicated, in many countries surnames are kind of ignored, and I am
just "Dr. Chris" - nice touch, though ;-).

So, as a minimum we need Tryton and GNU Health use the above fields in
the same manner. Or am I missing something?

I believe Name and Lastname is very country-dependent, so I believe that countries that require a different scenario can make it into the localization effort.

Certainly is required in western countries, and is great for searching and ID

What I have done is not making the lastname a required field, so if you don't use it, is still OK. Of course, lots of room  for improvement. Probably a good idea is to show the field depending on the country the Health Center is in ? But then, you can always have a foreign patient,, holder of a passport where the lastname is key.

Thanks a lot for your input and we will work on this !

Unrelated question: I have not yet gotten into Tryton's stock
management, but for pharmaceutics and lab reagents, this will be
essential. Can we enter expiry dates to lot numbers?

Definitely. In the case of vaccines, I have included the expiration date on it, but the best place to do it is in the lots.

Thanks a lot everyone!

Bests from Kabul,


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