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Re: Please review

From: bill-auger
Subject: Re: Please review
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 22:07:31 -0400

On Mon, 21 Jun 2021 23:13:51 +1000 Yuchen wrote:
> does CI / CD (something codeberg is planning to provide) count as 
> SaaSS? It certainly is doing computing on users' behalf, but 
> also offers it but passed the A5 criterion 

here is a symptom of the existential crisis of this project,
to which i have been alluding recently - this particular symptom
points at the very heart of the issue

(A5) is inherently dubious; because strictly-speaking, the forge
itself is SaaSS - all forges currently listed and under review
are SaaSS; because projects could host their own forge - the
fact that they also could host their own build servers as well,
is just the same point recursively

so in reality, the entire purpose of this repo-criteria project
is to recommend SaaSS, making A5 somewhat hypocritical - A5 is
applying a criteria to second-order services, while the
first-order service (the third-party-operated forge) is exempt
from the same criteria

in this particular case (and also IIRC), the second-order
services is operated by the same third-party which operates the
forge service - in such cases, i would simply evaluate the
second-order service (the build service in this case) using the
same criteria as the forge, and take the best union of them as
the final grade

IMHO, A5 should be removed, for that reason - A5 would be a fine
criteria for a list of self-hosting forges (because those are
not SaaSS themselves; but the solution to SaaSS)

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