Re: Two little features (and a bounty?)

[Dan Mahoney, System Admin]

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Micah Cowan wrote:

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> Perhaps he's referring to the fact that it won't work until the
> application requests mouse tracking, and several applications don't
> request mouse tracking from screen.

Is there a way to trace if this is happening?  I've given you the 
applications I use.  Micah, I've been a user and advocate of wget for many 
years.  If you would like a shell, please let me know.

> If that's the case, there's really nothing we can do until terminfo
> supports a way of advertising DEC/xterm mouse capabilities (kmous
> doesn't really cut it).

..if (windowtitle =~ /^nano/) { set sendmouseevents = 1; } would suffice 
just fine.  Or just give us an option to toggle mouse events on or off by 
default.  Or a ctrl-a :mouseon! My xterm doesn't know what on the other 
end of an SSH session is requesting or not, it just happily sends the 
click events down the pipe.  Aware applications use them.  Unaware apps 
discard them.

> I'd need more info on the printing stuff, as I never use it. I assume
> we're talking about the Print Window / Redirect to Printer feature Xterm
> has, that's tracked at https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?17310. I don't
> know enough to even know whether it's even practical to "fix" screen for
> use with that, but a monetary incentive for fixing it would at least
> motivate me to dig in a bit more (TBH, without that incentive it drops
> to the bottom of my to-do list: not enough demand AFAICT).

http://www.mail-archive.com/address@hidden/msg01387.html

Additionally to the requests I've made there -- a possible option is to 
disable the window-switching commands (in fact, disable ctrl-a entirely so 
the screen switching doesn't hose the print job -- but in reality the 
print comes over the wire so fast it's done in a second, on any modern 
connection).

Contact me out of band to discuss further if you want to pursue this 
route.

-Dan Mahoney

> >     Hey all,
> >
> >     I need two features added to screen, but I'm not a coder.  I can
> >     (and have) discussed on this list, as well as having seen these
> >     features justified and explained on mailing lists before, but I
> >     don't believe they work at this time.
> >
> >     1) Make printing work.  And by that I mean make it work JUST as it
> >     would work without screen, i.e. not "buffer" and send a bunch of
> >     printer stop/start sequences every 30 characters -- many SSH
> >     applications interpret that stop sequence as a page feed.
> >
> >     2) Make mouse work.  I haven't seen much with this.
> >
> >     I'm willing to toss something monetary at a developer or developers
> >     who can look at this and make it happen.
> >
> >     Any takers?
> >
> >     -Dan Mahoney
> >
> >     --
> >
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> >
> >     -Egon Spengler, "Ghostbusters"
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> Micah J. Cowan
> Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer,
> and GNU Wget Project Maintainer.
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--------Dan Mahoney--------
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