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Re: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior
From: |
Stefan Monnier |
Subject: |
Re: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior |
Date: |
Tue, 05 Apr 2005 10:58:20 -0400 |
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Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
> I don't know if an out-of-the-box configuration for the default Emacs is
> needed - the idea of a distribution like what we demonstrate with Aquamacs
> might already do the job. People with other needs - a cross-platform
> compatible Emacs - will then be happy to use the 'conservative'
> version instead.
It does the job, but it's more work for you. And having two slightly
different distributions is a pain in the rear. Better to have one
distribution plus an add-on. You can bundle them of course, but the point
is that I want to be able to install your Aquamacs (for other people) and
still use it as a "normal Emacs" myself.
> I see a trend towards the first - UI integration - because it's more
We're in favor of UI integration as well, mind you. We just don't have the
manpower/experience/time/will to do more of it ourselves. Note that UI
integration is different from issues such a default keybindings, etc...
> Either way, merely using a 'theme' with the on-board means, for example to
> make customization buffers look different, will IMHO not tweak the
> application UI enough.
You're confused about what is meant by "theme" in the context of Custom.
It's new in Emacs-CVS and is still very poorly supported/documented, but the
basic idea is that you can take your .emacs and say "here is my
DavidReitterTheme".
> Consequently, I'm arguing for native widgets wherever possible.
You're preaching to the choir. We're using native menus, native scrollbars,
native tooltips, ...
> In this case, I would be grateful if someone would implement
> more Carbon (or Cocoa) based UI stuff, and if better internal interfaces
> existed,
So would we.
> for example to handle scrollbars correctly.
Please report any complaint you have against the scrollbar with
M-x report-emacs-bug.
Stefan
- Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior, David Reitter, 2005/04/03
- Re: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior, David Kastrup, 2005/04/04
- Re: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior, David Reitter, 2005/04/04
- Re: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior, Stefan Monnier, 2005/04/04
- Re: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior, David Kastrup, 2005/04/04
- Re: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior, David Reitter, 2005/04/04
- Re: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior, David Kastrup, 2005/04/04
- Re: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior,
Stefan Monnier <=
- Re: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior, David Reitter, 2005/04/06
- Re: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior, Stefan Monnier, 2005/04/06
- Re: Scrollbar bug on OS X (was: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior), David Reitter, 2005/04/06
- Re: Scrollbar bug on OS X, Stefan Monnier, 2005/04/06
- Re: Scrollbar bug on OS X (was: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior), Miles Bader, 2005/04/06
- Re: Scrollbar bug on OS X, David Kastrup, 2005/04/06
- Re: Scrollbar bug on OS X, Stefan Monnier, 2005/04/06
- Re: Scrollbar bug on OS X, Richard Stallman, 2005/04/07
- Re: Scrollbar bug on OS X, Stefan Monnier, 2005/04/07
- Re: Scrollbar bug on OS X, David Kastrup, 2005/04/07