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Re: Gtk version getting closer
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Jan D. |
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Re: Gtk version getting closer |
Date: |
Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:49:50 +0100 |
This isn't always the case. Maybe the help texts should be
reviewed and expanded/removed as a result? For example,
in Options we have:
"Save Place in Files between Sessions"
The tooltip for that is "Save Emacs state for next session".
I think that the menu entry is much clearer hear, the tip is confusing.
I am surprised you think so. I think they are both clear
and that they complement each other.
Well, this is just an example, but here are my reasoning.
The menu item has "between Sessions", implying this applies
for all sessions to come. The tip says "next Session", implying
it is only for the next session.
The menu item has "Save Place in Files", the tip says "Save Emacs state".
Neither is 100% correct, there is more that places saved, but
less than the full Emacs state. If this is for a beginner, I
imagine (but could be wrong) that "Save Places" is easier to
understand than "Save state", as stats can mean many things.
I think I would have written "Reopen files when Emacs is started".
The same for the other items in that menu--they are useful. This menu
shows why menu item tooltips need to work.
I am not against tips, I just don't think showing them as today is
a good idea. The "What's this?" approach seems workable. Then we
could have even longer (multiline) tips.
The tips appear in the wrong places (i.e. under the pointer)
sometimes. I don't have a Lucid version available, but in the Motif
and
Gtk version you can click and release on a menubar item to make the
menu
appear. Then you can navigate the menus with arrow keys. The
tip displayed is for the menu item marked with the arrow keys, but
the tip appears where the pointer is. The pointer can be on the other
side
of the screen, so this looks funny.
That is indeed a bug; it would be good to fix it.
It is not that easy to get the information about where the selected
menu item is on the screen, so I think this is hard to do. I'll keep it
in mind when I start on Gtk menu tips.
Jan D.
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- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Richard Stallman, 2002/11/15
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Richard Stallman, 2002/11/14
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Jan D., 2002/11/12
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Eli Zaretskii, 2002/11/12
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Jan D., 2002/11/13
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Richard Stallman, 2002/11/14
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Eli Zaretskii, 2002/11/14
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Jan D., 2002/11/14
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Richard Stallman, 2002/11/13
- Re: Gtk version getting closer,
Jan D. <=
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Eli Zaretskii, 2002/11/14
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Jan D., 2002/11/14
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, David Masterson, 2002/11/14
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Richard Stallman, 2002/11/15
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Jan D., 2002/11/16
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Jason Rumney, 2002/11/14
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Jan D., 2002/11/14
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Richard Stallman, 2002/11/13
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, David Masterson, 2002/11/13
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Jan D., 2002/11/14