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Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output
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Reinhold Kainhofer |
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Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output |
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Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:10:05 +0200 |
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Am Sonntag, 10. Juli 2011, 12:50:19 schrieb Phil Holmes:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Graham Percival" <address@hidden>
> > On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 01:16:21PM +0100, Graham Percival wrote:
> > I think we should use logfiles by default -- actually, we should
> > use logfiles exclusively -- and then display bits of logfiles if
> > that seems helpful in debugging problems.
>
> My concern with this is that we may get a lot of people surprised and
> confused by this - "hey, where's all my usual output gone - something must
> be wrong!".
But once they have realized how a changed build system works, I don't see any
disadvantage. So, it's just the first time that they might be confused (if
there is some progress and no error messages, I would think they are not
really confused, but astonished that something is new...).
> By making it as it is by default, but with the ability to
> switch off the output to the screen if you know what you're doing, we avoid
> that problem.
But we don't solve the problem of the log output. I mean, how many people
really **want** the full output from the build system?
Shouldn't the default be tailored to what most users normally want. If they
want something else, then they can do that with command-line options. But I
don't think it's the best idea to for the majority to use a command-line
option to get the output they prefer (or simply live with a sub-optimal
output, because typing the same command-line options over and over again is an
even larger PITA).
Cheesr,
Reinhold
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* Financial & Actuarial Math., Vienna Univ. of Technology, Austria
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- Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output, (continued)
Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output, Jan WarchoĊ, 2011/07/07
Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output, Jan Nieuwenhuizen, 2011/07/08
Re: GOP-PROP 5: build system output, Graham Percival, 2011/07/08