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Re: [Classpathx-discuss] Fw: [Classpathx-xml] What is the status of gnuj


From: Dalibor Topic
Subject: Re: [Classpathx-discuss] Fw: [Classpathx-xml] What is the status of gnujaxp?
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:30:08 -0700 (PDT)

--- Nic Ferrier <address@hidden> wrote:
> Dalibor Topic <address@hidden> writes:
> 
> > Salut Arnaud,
> > 
> > --- Arnaud Vandyck <address@hidden> wrote:
> > > Nic Ferrier <address@hidden> wrote:
> > > > GNUJAXP is under development, I am working on the build system and
> > > > when I've done that I'll be working on bugs and missing features.
> > >
> > > Why don't you base the build system on jakarta-ant? Apache License is
> > > also free software, isn't it?
> > 
> > Kind of, but GPL incompatible according to the FSF.
> > 
> > And I don't know if any free VM can really run latest/any Ant releases all
> that
> > well (kaffe can with a bit of prodding). I've had a long, boring discussion
> on
> > that topic (and how far GPL applies accross interpreter boundaries, the
> annual
> > mild licensing flamewar) with a debian developer archived here
> > http://www.kaffe.org/pipermail/kaffe/2002-August/027705.html . In short, if
> you
> > use Ant, you automatically kick yourself out of debian-free as long as no
> other
> > VM can 'legally'[1] run ant.
> 
> If we really cared we would get ANT builds up and running on free VMs.
> 
> But none of the contributing hackers really likes ANT much. It's no
> suprise, make is a GNU tool. Why should we have to download ANT.
> 
> 
> I would have no problem including an ANT build in GNUJAXP if someone
> wants to make one. But I don't have the time.

Yep. And since kaffe doesn't use ant for the class library build, there is no
incentive for me as a GNUJAXP integrator to provide one. 

GNU Automake seems to be getting better and better at Java support. I'm looking
forward to JAR support.

cheers,
dalibor topic

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