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Re: Galileo Frequency Shifting and Filtering


From: Marcus Müller
Subject: Re: Galileo Frequency Shifting and Filtering
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 14:52:15 +0100
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Glad to see you got it working – I got confused by the frequencies from the first spectral diagram you shared, about which Daniel correctly noticed it was slightly wrong. My bad!

Best regards,
Marcus

On 2/28/23 18:33, David Dima wrote:
Here is the proof:
imagen.png
Many many thanks to everyone!
David

El mar, 28 feb 2023 a las 18:27, David Dima (<daviddimavd@gmail.com>) escribió:

    All right guys, I got it, it works now. The central frequency
    should have been 1911.795 MHz instead of 1189.5MHz. The final
    configuration results as follows:
    imagen.png

    imagen.png

    Thank you very much to everybody!
    Best regards,
    David

    El mar, 28 feb 2023 a las 18:17, Marcus Müller
    (<mmueller@gnuradio.org>) escribió:

        Hi David,

        please stay in the habit of keeping the mailing list in CC!

        Can you please write this email to the mailing list?

        Thanks,
        Marcus

        On 28.02.23 17:55, David Dima wrote:
        > Hi Marcus,
        > According to Galileo's signal plan
        > (https://gssc.esa.int/navipedia/index.php/Galileo_Signal_Plan
        >
        <https://gssc.esa.int/navipedia/index.php/Galileo_Signal_Plan>),
        E5b bandwidth is  25MHz,
        > but to save memory and resources, I sample at 20MHz because
        I demonstrated by testing that
        > is enough to process the signal without losing information.
        >
        > Regarding the Xlating filters: if I tune the USRP in the
        middle of the signals (1164MHz +
        > (1215-1164)/2)MHz = 1189.5MHz) , then I have to shift the
        spectrum +- 15.345 (According to
        > Daniel: "The band plan you posted is slightly wrong. The
        distance between the
        > AltBOC sidebands and the centre frequency is 15 * 1.023
        MHz.") to be able to record at
        > 25MHz each band (E5a and E5b). I am trying to do the following:
        > imagen.png
        > Kind regards,
        > David
        >
        > El mar, 28 feb 2023 a las 17:25, Marcus Müller
        (<mmueller@gnuradio.org
        > <mailto:mmueller@gnuradio.org>>) escribió:
        >
        >     Hi David,
        >
        >     On 28.02.23 17:17, David Dima wrote:
        >>     Dear Marcus, all
        >>     Thank you for your response. You are right, I will try
        to better explain the problem:
        >>
        >>     Well, when I record the signals separately (for example
        E5b) as shown in the below
        >>     picture, and after that I try to process the file
        containing the IQ samples by means
        >>     of GNSS-SDR free-tool, I can parse the messages to
        generate ephemeris, almanac or
        >>     Rinex files. Even if E5b bandwidth is 25MHz, it works
        sampling at 20 MHz.
        >>     imagen.png
        >
        >
        >     You're losing 1/5 of the relevant spectrum. That doesn't
        mean it *can't* work, it's
        >     just unnecessarily bad – honestly, **why** are you using
        a sampling rate that's not
        >     fit to represent the *full* signal? Can you please state
        *reasons*?
        >
        >
        >>
        >>     The issue comes when I try to record both signals at
        the same time. Taking into
        >>     account the suggestions Jim, Daniel and you have given
        me in the forum, I have made
        >>     a couple of changes in the program resulting in:
        >>     imagen.png
        >>     Now, at least I think I am closer to getting what I
        need but I am not sure if there
        >>     are more mistakes in the flowgraph. So, I have tried to
        record the signals according
        >>     to the above flowgraph but after that I still cannot
        read any signal from the
        >>     satellites whereas if I record them separately I can.
        >
        >     This makes no sense at all. Where do your "Center
        Frequencies" in the Freq.-Xlating
        >     filters come from?
        >
        >     Best regards,
        >     Marcus
        >




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