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Re: please make line-move-visual nil

From: Miles Bader
Subject: Re: please make line-move-visual nil
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 11:33:01 +0900

Bob Rogers <address@hidden> writes:
> Why do you suppose an Emacs newbie would expect the arrow keys to be the
> same as C-n/C-p?

I don't think they'll "expect" that, I hope they'll learn from what we
tell them, part of which is the traditional emacs key-bindings.

That learning is what will be easier if emacs traditional key-bindings
are simply different names for familiar concepts.

>    Personally, I would welcome binding visual movement to the arrow keys
> -- the arrows do *look* visual, especially compared to C-n/C-p.  And it
> would make it much easier to switch between the two modes of movement if
> the visual/textual distinction was supported by distinct commands bound
> to distinct keys.

Perhaps, but in this case it's harmful:  whether one wants to use arrow
keys or "emacsy" bindings tends to be dictated by the physical nature of
the keyboard and one's task -- arrow keys are convenient because they're
labelled, and a single keystroke, but they're inefficient and annoying
if one is touch-typing (due to the very large hand movement required to
use them), and lack integration with the general emacs key-binding
scheme -- so it's very desirable to be able to switch between them.

Having them be "similar but subtly different" horribly confuses an
otherwise straight-forward association.


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