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Re: How to search on emacs-devel?


From: Eric Abrahamsen
Subject: Re: How to search on emacs-devel?
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 09:43:54 -0800
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux)

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com>
>> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 00:49:31 -0500
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> 
>> Eric Abrahamsen writes:
>> 
>> > Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>> >
>> >> Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> writes:
>> >>
>> >>> public-inbox is git under the hood (see
>> >>> https://yhetil.org/emacs-devel/_/text/mirror/).
>> >>
>> >> Maybe local indexing with notmuch or what have you is still the easiest
>> >> solution, to.
>> 
>> For those that want to go this route, the main thing is getting the
>> Git-stored messages [1] into a format that the indexer understands.
>> There are some existing tools (not part of public-inbox) that can
>> convert a public-inbox archive into a Maildir.  l2md [2] and impibe [3]
>> are the ones listed at
>> <https://public-inbox.org/public-inbox.git/plain/Documentation/clients.txt>,
>> though I haven't used either of them myself.  (There's also
>> public-inbox's lei, which I'll get to below.)
>
> Instead (or maybe in addition to) of working on solutions that will
> help people individually and locally, why not talk to the GNU mailman
> admins so that this issue could be solved as part of improving the
> search facilities of the mailman archives?  That would benefit all of
> us.  Not to mention that "heavy" solutions are much more likely to be
> deployed as part of the GNU mailman infrastructure than by individual
> users on their local machines.

We should be doing both/everything, I quite agree! To be clear, this
thread got derailed a bit, in the direction of searching archives _from
within Gnus_, and touching on the disappearance of the search API at
Gmane. Those weren't the original questions, nor the most important
issues to be solved.

I guess I always assumed that the Gnu lists were being administered as
best they could, and if problems remained that was because they were
somehow intractable. Who would we talk to about jostling the namazu
installation? Or about maybe using a different indexer (though again, I
assume there were good reasons for choosing namazu)?

Eric




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