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Re: [PROPOSAL] Builder, a build system integration for Emacs


From: chad
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Builder, a build system integration for Emacs
Date: Thu, 25 May 2023 09:16:04 -0400



On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 3:49 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

FWIW, I don't trust tools that "do all that for me".  When building a
package that needs some prerequisite, I want to:
[...]

This is laudable but also requires effort, sometimes non trivial effort; witness the extra hoops required to get functional tree-sitter "support" inside emacs. Cargo is a (fairly slight, actually) evolution of the strategy I first saw back in the mid-90's with CPAN (the "Comprehensive Perl Archive Network"), through CTAN (similar for TeX), ruby, python, etc. 

I do agree that the default setup of cargo tends a little too much towards DWIMishness for my taste, but it's not hard to turn that down AND it removes many of the most annoying parts of library version management/hell.

In this particular case, unless I'm misreading, the OP is suggesting that a generic "builder" layer could include cargo as one of the many build management systems that is widely used to create (usually libre) software, rather than suggesting it as a model that either Emacs or the FSF should follow. 

I hope that helps,
~Chad

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