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Re: Installing cond* in core


From: Eli Zaretskii
Subject: Re: Installing cond* in core
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2024 16:18:33 +0200

> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2024 12:38:23 +0000
> Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
> 
> > Please drop this attitude: it is not useful.  In Emacs development,
> > stuff is routinely "slipped into Emacs in the dead of the night
> > without any public discussion", for better and for worse.
> 
> Pretending it didn't happen and failing to discuss it is not healthy for
> the project.

That's not what I said.

> Routine bug fixes, and uncontroversial stuff is committed without
> discussion, yes.

Those aren't the cases to which I alluded.

> > I'm sure that if you examine the logs of your own changes, you will
> > see many examples of that; I know I see that in mine and in most
> > other's.
> 
> I don't think I have ever intalled anything controversial without
> discussing it on the list.

The problem is that "controversial" is many times only evident in
retrospect.

> Controversial things should be discussed _before_ being committed to
> master, before their designs are finalised, not afterwards.

When we realize they are controversial, yes.  Many times, they are
not, and that's life.



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