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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] support me

From: Aaron Wolf
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] support me
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 09:39:51 -0700
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Citations? Who has trademarked those words? I don't believe you that
anyone has gotten legal trademark of those.

On 04/17/2015 09:33 AM, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES wrote:
> Normal words cannot be trademark you say ... some people have trademark
> god christ freedom free ...
> The "normality" is what is not for some others ...
> Regards
> Aaron Wolf <> writes:
>> One clarification: To say simply: While Trademark is important, Git is
>> *abusing* their trademark by not simply accept GitBull quickly. The
>> situation is stupid. Git had *no* reason to stop a Kallithea host from
>> using a Git name, and trademark law should not give them that level of
>> power. If a service is fully and completely using Git software and doing
>> nothing that misrepresents their relationship to Git, they should be
>> accepted. However, Git *should* have the ability to complain and stop
>> the service from using the name if they start doing anything that could
>> be confused.
>> I think instead of stopping the use of the name, Git should simply
>> require a statement like "This service uses Git software but is not
>> officially connected to the Git project or endorsed by the Git project."
>> On 04/17/2015 09:13 AM, Aaron Wolf wrote:
>>> Thanks for the news.
>>> Please learn more about trademark though. Trademark is NOT owning any
>>> word. Normal words cannot be trademarked, and trademark isn't full
>>> ownership of words. The Git project does not own the word "Git" if it
>>> were used for something like a brand of ice cream. They do not own the
>>> word in terms of people talking about the Git project. The do not
>>> control it completely. They have exclusive control over only a small
>>> area: the use of the word Git for *products* and *services* that are in
>>> the area where people could confuse them for being official Git products
>>> or services.
>>> In other words, trademark is a *consumer protection*. It helps make sure
>>> that the public are not tricked into thinking something is an official
>>> version or officially endorsed part of something when it is not. This
>>> does not make anyone a slave.
>>> By complaining to you, Git was saying: "We don't know that we fully
>>> endorse your GitBull service, and we are worried that the public may
>>> think your service has official connection to the Git project. So, we
>>> want to restrict the name Git here because we want people to know that
>>> if they see Git in the name of something similar to or related to the
>>> Git project that it isn't a fake thing or a trick or something."
>>> Now, *I* think it is wrong for Git to do anything other than realize
>>> that GitBull was fine. But I do *not* think they should have no
>>> trademark. I do *not* want someone else less responsible than you to
>>> make Git-something that actually uses Git badly or pretends to be like
>>> Git when it is actually not Git software but something similar but
>>> different. That might make people have bad experience and think badly of
>>> Git. Trademark is GOOD for the public, which is not true for patents and
>>> copyright.
>>> On 04/17/2015 02:02 AM, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES wrote:
>>>> Hello Coders!
>>>> So ... on start this thread wake up with Alimiracle who request for
>>>> support for fully free solution for his codes host.
>>>> It is right that many solution already exist, but they are not all
>>>> completly free or try to be, but are not.
>>>> We try on our side to make this place a reality, which represent many
>>>> trouble, but, find the way with kallithea.
>>>> At first we have used the name gitbull, git for the tool ... bull for
>>>> the horns of the gnu beast.
>>>> But freedom is not the same in the mind of every humans.
>>>> The Software Freedom Conservancy ping me (very correctly) but ping me on
>>>> the fact we use the term git and the point that git is trademark.
>>>> That make me discover that many things are trademark and by the way ping
>>>> LibrePlanet to act on LibreMark.
>>>> We can't own a name, because to make it short if i own the name earth
>>>> you are all my slave. If I own the name fire, your ass will freeze ...
>>>> A bit strong form of explanation, but simple enought to say that it is
>>>> not because you own a word that in front the reality of this know part
>>>> of the bubble universes where we live it is the reality.
>>>> You don't own anything, but yes you can use the force to jail me. Very
>>>> human and in human by the way.
>>>> So,
>>>> We push all our things to
>>>> and continue to make the things free as in freedom and price.
>>>> I understand that this last point is very difficult for some people to
>>>> understand, but if you think of this planet 7000 years before there were
>>>> no money and things were not so bad.
>>>> Maybe money is the chain of slavery you just don't have ping in your
>>>> mind.
>>>> Welcome to our Free Coding Community, Welcome to Bull Codes
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