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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] support me

From: Aurélien DESBRIÈRES
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] support me
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 18:42:21 +0200
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Aaron Wolf <> writes:

> Citations? Who has trademarked those words? I don't believe you that
> anyone has gotten legal trademark of those.
> On 04/17/2015 09:33 AM, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES wrote:
>> Normal words cannot be trademark you say ... some people have trademark
>> god christ freedom free ...
>> The "normality" is what is not for some others ...
>> Regards
>> Aaron Wolf <> writes:
>>> One clarification: To say simply: While Trademark is important, Git is
>>> *abusing* their trademark by not simply accept GitBull quickly. The
>>> situation is stupid. Git had *no* reason to stop a Kallithea host from
>>> using a Git name, and trademark law should not give them that level of
>>> power. If a service is fully and completely using Git software and doing
>>> nothing that misrepresents their relationship to Git, they should be
>>> accepted. However, Git *should* have the ability to complain and stop
>>> the service from using the name if they start doing anything that could
>>> be confused.
>>> I think instead of stopping the use of the name, Git should simply
>>> require a statement like "This service uses Git software but is not
>>> officially connected to the Git project or endorsed by the Git project."
>>> On 04/17/2015 09:13 AM, Aaron Wolf wrote:
>>>> Thanks for the news.
>>>> Please learn more about trademark though. Trademark is NOT owning any
>>>> word. Normal words cannot be trademarked, and trademark isn't full
>>>> ownership of words. The Git project does not own the word "Git" if it
>>>> were used for something like a brand of ice cream. They do not own the
>>>> word in terms of people talking about the Git project. The do not
>>>> control it completely. They have exclusive control over only a small
>>>> area: the use of the word Git for *products* and *services* that are in
>>>> the area where people could confuse them for being official Git products
>>>> or services.
>>>> In other words, trademark is a *consumer protection*. It helps make sure
>>>> that the public are not tricked into thinking something is an official
>>>> version or officially endorsed part of something when it is not. This
>>>> does not make anyone a slave.
>>>> By complaining to you, Git was saying: "We don't know that we fully
>>>> endorse your GitBull service, and we are worried that the public may
>>>> think your service has official connection to the Git project. So, we
>>>> want to restrict the name Git here because we want people to know that
>>>> if they see Git in the name of something similar to or related to the
>>>> Git project that it isn't a fake thing or a trick or something."
>>>> Now, *I* think it is wrong for Git to do anything other than realize
>>>> that GitBull was fine. But I do *not* think they should have no
>>>> trademark. I do *not* want someone else less responsible than you to
>>>> make Git-something that actually uses Git badly or pretends to be like
>>>> Git when it is actually not Git software but something similar but
>>>> different. That might make people have bad experience and think badly of
>>>> Git. Trademark is GOOD for the public, which is not true for patents and
>>>> copyright.
>>>> On 04/17/2015 02:02 AM, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES wrote:
>>>>> Hello Coders!
>>>>> So ... on start this thread wake up with Alimiracle who request for
>>>>> support for fully free solution for his codes host.
>>>>> It is right that many solution already exist, but they are not all
>>>>> completly free or try to be, but are not.
>>>>> We try on our side to make this place a reality, which represent many
>>>>> trouble, but, find the way with kallithea.
>>>>> At first we have used the name gitbull, git for the tool ... bull for
>>>>> the horns of the gnu beast.
>>>>> But freedom is not the same in the mind of every humans.
>>>>> The Software Freedom Conservancy ping me (very correctly) but ping me on
>>>>> the fact we use the term git and the point that git is trademark.
>>>>> That make me discover that many things are trademark and by the way ping
>>>>> LibrePlanet to act on LibreMark.
>>>>> We can't own a name, because to make it short if i own the name earth
>>>>> you are all my slave. If I own the name fire, your ass will freeze ...
>>>>> A bit strong form of explanation, but simple enought to say that it is
>>>>> not because you own a word that in front the reality of this know part
>>>>> of the bubble universes where we live it is the reality.
>>>>> You don't own anything, but yes you can use the force to jail me. Very
>>>>> human and in human by the way.
>>>>> So,
>>>>> We push all our things to
>>>>> and continue to make the things free as in freedom and price.
>>>>> I understand that this last point is very difficult for some people to
>>>>> understand, but if you think of this planet 7000 years before there were
>>>>> no money and things were not so bad.
>>>>> Maybe money is the chain of slavery you just don't have ping in your
>>>>> mind.
>>>>> Welcome to our Free Coding Community, Welcome to Bull Codes
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