Re: [Savannah-hackers] What's up?

[Nic]

Tom Lord <address@hidden> writes:

> I must be confused -- can you please help me become non-confused?
> 
> My understanding was that, until the new unattended uploads
> infrastructure is in place, the way to get a file into
> ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu-arch was to write to address@hidden with a
> location from which the file could be snarfed and a gpg-signed md5sum.
> 
> I'm sorry but the distinctino between sysadmin and savannah is a bit
> lost on me.
>
> I understand that, in some sense that I don't fully appreciate, this
> is not a savannah issue but a sysadmin issue.   Please understand that
> from my perspective I have a savannah project, it's CVS area connects
> to the gnu.org web pages, and I'm supposed to be using ftp.gnu.org as
> the primary distribution site.
 
I think the problem is one of audience. I understand that it doesn't
make much difference to your problem which bit of the GNU admin team
is dealing with your fault, but Rudy was replying to rms who is aware
of distinctions between different teams so he used that language so
rms would understand where the problem lies.

The separation between the savannah-hackers and the GNU sysadmins is
like a normal first and second line support thing. But because we'e
all volunteers there aren't the extensive communication channels that
you might expect. The sysadmins (AFAIK) don't have an issue tracking
system that we, the savannah hackers, can monitor.

>From the savannah hackers point of view: we have to hand things to do
with gnudist to the sysadmins and they fix it. There isn't much we
can do about it until they have fixed it. We don't like to chase them
too much because they are very, very, busy.


> ftp.gnu.org is already well behind the latest release and now I have
> another coming up.    I'd rather not have to wind up posting a release
> announcement that says "well, you can't get this at gnu.org but here
> it is on [some other site]."
> 
> I'm sorry if I'm being dense about how I'm supposed to accomplish
> uploads -- it doesn't seem like it should be this hard.

Absolutely... the sysadmins are taking much longer getting gnudist
working again (for new releases) than they expected. I'm affraid I
don't know much more about that than you...



Nic