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Re: Entry level Java


From: Tim Howe
Subject: Re: Entry level Java
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:35:29 -0700

I have been working on making jheatbugs more understandable by 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Methot, Chris" <address@hidden>
To: <address@hidden>
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:59 AM
Subject: Entry level Java


> I am working an issue that can only be solved by simulations.  We can't
> really build and test it and if we could there is little likelihood it
> would be stable enough to be repeatable at this point.  As a novice I
> hit on Swarm and decided to use Java because of its insistence on
> correct programming technique (garbage collection and logic checking).
> I am just completing my first Java course (I can flash and scroll text
> with the best of them).
> 
> Now I am looking for Java samples along the lines of Hello_world and
> simpleCBug.  Jheatbugs and Jmousetrap are a little too ambitious for me.
> I tried "porting" simpleCBug but got hung up on minimum restrictions for
> Java Swarm like main().  I tried the SDG csss tutorial sample but the
> tar file has no Make file, many unneeded Java files and I am not able to
> get it to compile.
> 
> I found that in January of 2000 you felt that Java was not a good
> candidate for novice programmers (me).  Despite that, your slides from
> SDG csss indicate that it seems superior for that purpose.  I believe
> you felt that there would be a time when that would change.  I checked
> the mail archives to see if this had changed.
> 
> 2 Questions:
> Has there been any additional simple self-teaching progressive Java
> examples added since January of 2000?
> 
> Would it be possible (with some guidance) to port Hello_world or
> simpleCBug (ultimately ending up with the examples I need) or perhaps
> they are designed to teach Objective C++ Swarm and have lots of
> extraneous stuff not needed in Java Swarm?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Chris Methot
> 
> 
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