Re: [Dragora-users] reduce cost?

[Jing Luo]

On 2024-01-08 21:19, Matías Fonzo wrote:
> El 2024-01-08 00:51, Jing Luo via Dragora-users escribió:
> > [...]
> >
> > Also, the paypal no-login donation doesn't work for me: I have credit 
> > cards in two countries (China and Japan), when I choose either of 
> > them, paypal says "Donations to this recipient aren't supported in 
> > this country"
>
> I ask, the PayPal no-login option from where?.  From what I understand 
> you need to be logged into paypal to operate it, am I wrong?.  I wonder 
> if this is a problem with PayPal or an outdated code from the Dragora 
> donation section.

After I click on the donate button, paypal gives me two options: login, 
or "use credit/debit card". If I choose "use credit/debit card", and 
select country China or Japan, it will return error, but selecting 
"United States" or "Argentina" seems OK. I guess some countries are 
blocked from donation. Anyway, I have a US paypal account and I used my 
credit card, it worked.

> > On the other hand, I think I may be able to help reduce the cost. Is 
> > dragora.org costing much money? I can host it "pro gratis". I host 
> > repo.jing.rocks the mirror site (and other sites) using my home 
> > servers (in Japan), if you want, I can set up a few VMs and give you 
> > ssh access. I have many GBs of memory and TBs of storage available. If 
> > dragora's DNS server costs money, I can also set up name servers.
>
> This sounds very good!
>
> The renovation of the site is set for 2023-03-01.  I just checked and 
> the value in Argentinian pesos will be 40545.55(ARS), considering the 
> conversion to the CURRENT dollar value, it would come out:
>
>     50 USD (rounded).
>
> 1 ARS = 0,00123113 USD
> 1 USD = 812,259 ARS
>
> With inflation in the country, it is expensive for us.

I actually have no idea how much 40 mil pesos means to you, but I 
traveled to Buenos Aires in 2019, it was 1 USD =~ 30 ARS.

> My "only condition" would be that if you set up a server, I would not 
> want to maintain a web server (manually) because of the time it might 
> take to set it up and keep it up to date.  (I don't know how much time 
> I would have to do this.)
>
> If you already have a scheme set up, then I think there will be no 
> problem uploading the website there.  :-)

No problem! I can manage web servers for you. Should we move the 
conversation off the mailing list?

> [...]
> I also forgot to mention that I use email for this address, if this is 
> not possible I would have no problem changing the address to my 
> secondary email address hosted on riseup.net.

No problem, besides web servers, I also self host my mail servers. This 
can be set up very easily I think. But I see on Jan 4, my mail server 
retried many times to deliver email to your address, I wonder if I can 
directly reach you outside the mailing list.


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